Dan Shipper

So it, it like wakes up every 15 minutes or so it connects natively to a couple of messaging apps, but that's really it.

And the core of OpenClaw is still this thing that can modify itself.

And that means it's super flexible, right?

Like Peter who built OpenClaw, he didn't,

I use it for bug tracking and triage.

He never built a bug tracking and triage feature into it, and the guy who made Pi never built a bug tracking.

It's not made for bug tracking and triage, but it's just flexible enough, and its tools are granular enough that it can be used for anything, and that's the interesting part of it.

Totally.

It really is.

And it opens up a way of thinking that is quite different from how programmers normally think.

And it's actually hard to get AI to think this way because it's trained to think like a programmer.

And what programmers want is...

They want to be able to predict what's going to happen.

Like they want to make a machine where they know how it all works.

And I think that's one of the reasons why it took a long time to get something like Cloud Code is because we were pretty afraid to unhobble the model.

That's what Anthropic talks about internally is unhobbling the model.

We kind of like really locked it down and we were kind of like, oh, it's going to be in this very specific type of workflow that it's going to work for.

And the real answer is actually no.

give it a basic set of general tools and let it run in a loop and people will figure out how to use it for whatever their specific use cases are.

And I think that's, it's just, it's a new way of thinking about software that's both scary and extremely useful.