Dana El-Kurd

I mean, if you look at what happened in the lead up to the Iraq war, anyone who knew anything about Iraq as an actual subject matter expert was basically isolated and cut out of the planning because they were all saying, don't do what you're doing.

It's not going to work.

Well, and even even even in administrations we regard as competent, like I randomly like when I was at University of Chicago, like going to school, I met the guy who was who was set calm Syria analyst, like right when that beginning of the Syrian revolution.

And he was like reporting to Barack Obama about what was going on.

And it was just like some guy like it was it was it was like some guy who'd gotten like an undergrad degree.

Right.

Yeah.

Like and even those guys are getting like it was just like some random asshole with I mean, like he's like.

knew his stuff but he wasn't like a he wasn't like an expert on this right and even those people are gone and so now you're dealing with those people who are supposed to be running these negotiations you just have like literally no idea what's going on because they fired every non-white person and so it's just catastrophic for the entire world

Yep.

Cool.

One more ad break and we will return for a final segment giving an update on a friend of the pod, Gregory Favino.

Oh, Greg.

All right, we are back.

Unfortunately, it's time for our reoccurring Bovino segment.

Hopefully the last.

God.

What's Boving on?

He just had a very interesting interview with the New York Times.

He did.