Dana El-Kurd
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first heard Mar 2026
last heard 30 May
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For the purposes of this case, this would be damaging government property in other ways, like slashing tires, graffiti, that sort of thing.
And finally, 18 USC 114, killing or attempting to kill an officer or employee of the United States.
That's pretty self-explanatory.
Yeah.
To quote the jury instructions, Yeah.
Yeah.
Unquote.
So the jury does not need to find proof that all of these three terrorism offenses were committed, that the explosives charge, the destruction of government property charge, or the attempted killing charge.
They just need to find proof beyond a reasonable doubt that material support was provided for one of these.
Part of what makes this charge kind of dangerous is that we don't know which terroristic crime or crimes the jury found sufficient evidence for or if they used different offenses for different defendants.
nor do we explicitly know what the jury thought qualified as material support.
It could have been driving people to an action, a mere presence at an action, wearing black clothes, providing money to buy fireworks.
All those could be considered material support.
But because of how the jury just writes guilty on this charge, we don't actually know what the specific...
justification they used to find this to be true right because the discharge is so is so broad and can contain a lot of things that qualify as material support including just being merely present at an action like personnel can be material support in furtherance of a federal crime of terrorism right so wearing black block at an action where no crime happens is
would not constitute terrorism, but wearing black clothes at a protest where someone does an ideologically motivated crime of terrorism could be seen as materially supporting that crime or concealing the escape of the person who committed that crime.
I want to quote from the judge's instructions to the jury regarding the First Amendment, quote, constitutionally protected speech can be properly used as evidence to prove a defendant's motive, intent, and knowledge to commit the offense or further the unlawful purpose of any jointly undertaken criminal activity.
stated another way, if a defendant's speech, expression, or associations were made with the intent to knowingly provide material support or resources to be used to prepare for or carry out a violation of federal law or to carry out the concealment of an escape from such a violation, then the First Amendment would not provide a defense to that conduct, unquote.
Mm-hmm.
So it is possible, now using this case as precedent, if you're present at a protest before someone commits a serious crime and you have a tangential link to that person, you could also face similar charges.
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