Danavir Sarria

So I tell them, hey, you send more emails and stuff like that.

I teach them what I'm doing.

That just becomes expectation.

Then if people leave, people leave, right?

And what I built, like, even though people have left, those are people who have never...

Not that they were never going to buy, but they didn't like my content either.

They were just there because they were there, you know, content upgrades and all that.

But the people who buy, and even the people who don't buy, but the people who talk about CopyMonk all the time, they're the ones that are like, hey, I love your emails.

Hey, I love your content.

And that's the best thing.

That's the thing that I focus on, to help the people who I can best help.

And if it comes with unsubscribes, I'm not too worried about that, to be honest.

But it's only in the beginning because it's the first time.

I've done that, but once you set the expectation, it becomes pretty simple.

Well, to know if there's two different, if you know yourself as you're talking about yourself, if you're a good copywriter, one, is it, are you making sales?

And two, what are people saying about your stuff?

So engagement, uh, pretty much just, just like regular content essentially, but not engaging like, like, Hey, I really liked your, your blog posts or Hey,

I don't know about not blog posts, email or something or sales that are, but, or like, Hey, um, for some reason I never buy, you know, from emails or stuff like that.

But yours email just made me want to talk to you.

You know what I mean?