Dani Chammas
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first heard Apr 2020
last heard Dec 2024
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So we never, there's a risk to labeling somebody's mental illness untreatable.
And on the other hand, in psychiatry, we've also seen some people who get treatment their whole life, but continue to suffer unrelentingly.
So this other very valid perspective is to say, we don't want people to suffer if we don't have the tools to help them.
Reflectory illness can be so impactful on quality of life, and that can get compounded if we're compelling people to have treatments that they may experience as harmful or as traumatizing without necessarily having benefits.
So I think the philosophical debate is really around the concept
Of untreatable mental illness.
Is there untreatable mental illness?
And if it is, how do we know that it is?
And that's not an empirically answered question at that point.
I don't even know if it's an empirically answerable question.
I was really happy you asked Brent that
I generally agree that there's not a psychiatric illness that if we did nothing...
That a person would die within six months.
It's just how far will we go?
Like if there's somebody with anorexia who's not going to eat, are we okay keeping them hospitalized against their will in perpetuity with feeding tubes, getting nutrition into their bodies?
What are we willing to do to a person against their will if they truly don't want it
they're truly not our refractory?
Where is that limit?
But from the legality perspective, the strict legality perspective, it's hard for me to conceptualize any mental illness that I could say without treatment when you would die within six months from it.
he's good.
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