Daniel Coyle

And that's what helped them survive.

And in all the places that I visited, I found kind of that same heartbeat.

Like they're all in their own way, whether it's Zingerman's, whether it's this little town in Vermont that develops all these Olympians.

They're all having these moments of deep connection.

deep, meaningful connection, sort of.

And then they're doing these kind of self-organizing explorations together.

And that, I think, ends up being kind of the framework or the heartbeat of what flourishing is.

It's a living thing.

It's not a machine.

It's not an output.

It's not a game that you can figure out the rules to.

But it's a process, a lived process, where you are inhaling, stopping, inhaling that meaning, figuring out what you're about, getting energy and connection from that,

and then exploring and growing in ways that challenge you and that are difficult, but that end up growing everyone in the group.

I think it depends what we mean by faith.

If faith, we mean we're going to step into a relationship with something bigger, a mystery.

And I would say that's a pretty good way to think about it.

I'm going to kind of step into a mystery that I do not understand.

that I do not understand, and that could be the universe, that could be nature.

There's a lot of things bigger than us that are not named God or don't have a religion associated with them.

But stepping through that, stepping into uncertainty with others, I think is that pattern that we see over and over again, where they are...