Daniel Ek

And I think you have to love technology in order to go to the depth of understanding what's possible.

And because it's oftentimes like the greatest ideas is truly innately understanding something.

and truly innately breaking constraints around that something by understanding the rules and knowing when you can... Yeah, to break them.

Yeah.

And so, like, what are the greatest entrepreneurs, really?

Well, the greatest founders are the people that kind of have this one idea of, like, what the... They can almost internalize the consumer, right?

Like, what is someone willing... What do they need, even if they can't articulate it themselves, right?

And then have this entire field of amazing, brilliant engineers and scientists and mathematicians and all these groups of people that are doing various things.

And then sort of figure out the intersection.

And then you actually have to make it viable too, which is you have to have some sort of business model.

Because if you don't have that, eventually this thing won't be sustainable.

So, you know, it's sort of the trifecta of those three things.

And that makes it even more interesting.

Because now we're talking about, you know, a really complex equation trying to get these things together with multiple unknowns.

And you're trying to configure these things by locking down constraints on one side and then you're trying another side.

And the amazing thing about early stage entrepreneurship is, you know, we talked about this Google example of trying 200 different colors.

You can't do that early on.

That is the amazing thing.

Every decision you make is life or death.

And that makes sort of the stakes even higher because you may literally try one thing and then you run out of money.