Daniel Ek

One of my 10-year-old daughter told me about this is around...

that actually, you know, she sort of said, like, we have this idea of eight hours, and she actually mentioned instead that

The real notion is that we kind of did it almost like fasting.

Like Ramadan is, you know, it's based on the sun.

Sometimes it could be six hours or sometimes it could be 12 hours.

So it used to be the sleep was actually in two periods.

So you didn't sleep one consecutive thing.

You sort of had a three, four hour sleep and then, you know, you woke up and then you had another three, four hours sleep again.

And so much of that was based on light.

And, you know, maybe it was driven by other things that were happening in our life too.

And for Nordic people, what it actually meant, going back as late as the, you know, 18th century, before we started having electric lights and candles and all these things is...

we actually slept a lot less on the summers and we slept a lot more in the winters, guided by lights.

So we keep thinking it's the static thing, but it's actually, again, driven by the environment around us.

And so much of this sort of innate knowledge about listening to ourselves

understanding our innate personality, understanding hunger.

Like I can tell you someone I've gained in periods of my life, like 40 pounds in my worst negotiations, et cetera.

And one of the problems I have now is that I literally don't know when I'm hungry because I ruined that sort of natural feeling in my body of understanding when I'm hungry and when I'm not hungry.

So, you know, huge part of losing weight for me over the past few years was just really kind of innately starting to listening to my body again and like starting to figure out what satiation means.

Because for me, for instance, I don't feel it until 20 minutes after.

So like if I didn't like sort of eye what I should eat, I would just keep eating way more than I should.