Daniel Ek

So quite often when I do take some time off, I come back with like two or three and some entirely new insights.

They just wouldn't have come if I just kept grinding that thing, but just changing a scenery, being in a different frame of mind, pausing, giving, you know, it's in the creative process.

You know, the greatest artists talk about some of the greatest songs literally take five minutes to write.

Which is amazing, right?

But some songs are the ones you like work on and you put it in a drawer and six months later, totally unbeknownst to you, it clicks.

You're not even working on that thing.

It's just sort of like, oh, that's it.

And they go back and they do the song and it's like the greatest song ever.

There's not one path to greatness.

There's many.

And I feel like that's why I'm so obsessively focused on energy.

Is that what you mean?

Yeah, 100%.

And I try to feel that.

I feel like so much of our life just rips us apart from this thing and tries to get us on a schedule per se.

And it's not like I don't have a schedule.

Of course, I do have one.

Yeah.

But I feel so much of it should be more guided by trying to understand ourselves more intimately, right?

So I don't know if you've heard of this, but going back to sleep, there's been this kind of thing around more recently, which I was surprised.