Daniel Ek

And I think, feel like you sort of asked about AI and all these things.

And we can talk about art too, but like for me, like that is going to be even rarer.

Like average is going to be possible to do even better than average is going to be possible to do with AI.

But that's sort of,

thing about this guy doing this for 30 years just becoming the very very best about what they do or even what i find incredibly inspiring by you is just the relentlessness every single day towards the long term it's it's like as you say it's the paradox about the long term um

mindedness, but the obsession on the daily basis.

And against conventional odds, against all these other things, because I would imagine, I don't know, but I would imagine like when you started Founders, probably not many people knew who you were, right?

Nobody, right?

And so the competition for your time

uh was there was none so you could probably sit for six hours or eight hours etc but today it's much harder because there's many other things there's people like myself and other people and you're like oh wait a minute maybe this is a good idea to meet this person or there's uh

You know, a business opportunity that shows up and maybe people are asking, look, maybe you should invest and maybe you're tempted about it even.

But this is the thing that happens all the time.

And this is how greatness gets evaporated is you lose focus.

That's a great line.

Greatness gets evaporated.

Sure.

I do feel the same thing, of course.

But I'm back to sort of time versus energy management.

And I don't know about you, but I feel like

The greatest ideas I've had comes from the most weird and wonderful places where I expected nothing out of it.