Daniel Kokotajlo

That is not the part I'm skeptical of.

I am more skeptical of just like,

even if you're all aligned and want to work together, do you fundamentally understand how to run this huge organization?

And you're doing it in ways that no human has had to before.

You're getting copied incessantly.

You're running extremely fast.

You know what I'm saying?

And so it's a complicated thing, and I'm just not sure why you think we build this bureaucracy, or the AIs build this bureaucracy,

Five years?

Jane Street made a puzzle for listeners of this episode, and I thought that I'd take a crack at it first.

And so I'm joined by my friend Adam Kennedy at Jane Street, and he's going to mentor me as I try to take a stab at this.

Let's go.

I appreciate your confidence in me, but there's a reason I became a podcaster.

Today I went on a hike and found a pile of tensors hiding underneath a Neolithic burial mound.

Maybe start by looking at the last two layers.

An ancient civilization's secret code.

Okay, so it looks like I can just type in some words here, and it always gives me zero.

Nice.

All right.

We're in.