Daniel McConnell

welcome back now it's time for the post-match analysis Peter Sabrina Casalta I mean as I said in the introduction you know kind of someone who hadn't a connection with Ireland in advance coming in like just putting yourself in her shoes to try and not only come in to a foreign country but to kind of come into a different arm obviously she'd worked with Vodafone separately in Italy but to come into a separate kind of organisation here as the leader I mean that's a daunting prospect for anybody yeah

And it impressed me, and I'm probably revealing the secrets of the trade here, but, I mean, some people will come and do this, and they'll have their press spokesperson with them.

She came by herself.

I mean, I was impressed.

We're always happy to have PR people.

We're always happy to have PR people.

Yes, yes, Peter.

But I do take your point.

She was at ease here, and she was confident, but I did, like, when I was kind of probing her leadership style and probing the kind of how she goes about it, you can see she expects a lot from her team around her.

There is that pressure that they have to deliver.

And, you know, obviously they've just moved office, you know, in from Sandy for leprosy and into Stephen's Green.

That obviously brings its own challenge.

But even talking to her, she said it's a huge opportunity for the business to kind of almost reset the work dynamics.

The idea of having mixed floors and not having people in silos.

I thought that was really, really interesting from a business perspective.

But she herself, you know, I saw her at the Ireland event.

I think it was the Ireland-Scotland match in the Viva, and Vodafone were hosting, so they had a kind of, and they had Doneco Callaghan and Tommy Bow doing their thing, but she, as Vodafone chief executive, got up in front of a room of very noisy people who were probably just there to, you know, enjoy the day.

But, you know, she held the room, and that's not, again, not an easy thing to do.

And as I said, when you put that in the context of her comments that, you know, of being an introvert, I mean, that is impressive.

To be able to kind of force yourself or train yourself or to get yourself to that level, because a huge part of that job is public-facing.