Daniel Miessler

Definitely.

Definitely.

Yeah, it's a good point. Hey, Jack, can I jump in here? Yeah, who's this? This is Daniel Meisler. Oh, hey, Daniel. Yeah, what do you have to say about this? Yeah, so what I find fascinating about this whole story is that there's a very early concept in security about how do I know it's you, right? And we normally don't have to worry about this with video because seeing has always been believing.

Yeah, it's a good point. Hey, Jack, can I jump in here? Yeah, who's this? This is Daniel Meisler. Oh, hey, Daniel. Yeah, what do you have to say about this? Yeah, so what I find fascinating about this whole story is that there's a very early concept in security about how do I know it's you, right? And we normally don't have to worry about this with video because seeing has always been believing.

And the same with hearing for audio. But now with deepfakes for both video and audio, we need a whole nother layer. So what I actually expect to see here is products coming out that are basically like, how do I establish like early trust? Like as soon as you join a company, you'll probably establish like keys across like all of Slack or across like all of Microsoft Teams or something.

And the same with hearing for audio. But now with deepfakes for both video and audio, we need a whole nother layer. So what I actually expect to see here is products coming out that are basically like, how do I establish like early trust? Like as soon as you join a company, you'll probably establish like keys across like all of Slack or across like all of Microsoft Teams or something.

And that's like your predetermined channel.

And that's like your predetermined channel.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We're going to need something like that for all remote calls, essentially, because it's like, first of all, the AI can copy both of our voices because we have our voice out there and that's easy to copy. But very soon, like, I won't know, honestly, if this is you right now on this call. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We're going to need something like that for all remote calls, essentially, because it's like, first of all, the AI can copy both of our voices because we have our voice out there and that's easy to copy. But very soon, like, I won't know, honestly, if this is you right now on this call. Yeah.

Exactly. Exactly. There's going to be some sort of challenge or like predetermined like key exchange. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

Exactly. Exactly. There's going to be some sort of challenge or like predetermined like key exchange. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.