Daniel Norcross

And those two guys you just mentioned, they're all format players, aren't they?

You know, we hear a lot about how... Yeah, and shock me, right?

And that's what's happened to Jake Fraser-McGoo.

Just before I come to you, I'd say it's an interesting contrast, isn't it, with Harry Brooke, who could so easily have been and end up that kind of player.

We all get frustrated, by the way, in England.

We get frustrated by the way he gets out in test matches.

But he's still playing test matches.

He's still captaining 50 over cricket.

Still playing T20 cricket.

And actually not playing IPL, which is intriguing.

I guess, you know, a board like the ECB is able to provide enough of a financial incentive for him to be able to do that.

He'll be known as one of the... It's a leading left-arm fast bowler in test cricket.

So how many franchises is that in total?

There might have been a slightly different thing at work there.

Because England have got themselves a bunch of players...

that are committed to test cricket.

You look at someone like Jamie Smith, and I've seen a lot of him in county cricket, and he's exactly the kind of guy who could have ended up certainly not being a test wicketkeeper.

He didn't wicketkeep in domestic cricket hardly at all.

I mean, he has done it, but that's not his primary focus.

He could easily have been a Jake Fraser McGurk and go out and be a gun for hire.