Daniel Wall
Appearances
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
That's crazy.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
How was it?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
10 million monthly listens. About a billion streams.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Yeah, you're very genuine online. I really love all the posts you make. How... Okay, I want to ask this first real quick because this is a question I always like to ask everyone, which is... I think in music, in content, there's this kind of sense of like going viral overnight or like there's this sense of like having the song that changes your life overnight.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
But how many songs do you think you wrote before getting like the first big hit?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
June 7th to June 21st.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Probably.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And independent.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I don't even know if it's true, but I saw somewhere that it's, like, the music industry today is going into, like, 80%. Because there's so many artists that are independent, so many of them. I want to come back to this, but... Tell me about how you made La La La. I want to return to La La La. I love that song. How did that song come about?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
It's about to hit a billion streams.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
So did I really just forget that melody? Like walk into it, say into the microphone, did I really just forget that melody? And then when you hear the actual melody of Y2K going dot, dot, and then you come in, that was actually how it happened.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
That's crazy.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
That's crazy.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Did you expect that song to be like a hit?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And the moment that went crazy was the, did I just really forget that melody? I remember just being a meme and everyone just continuing to comment it for so long. And what's interesting about that period of time of viral songs is that they were so... many viral songs coming off of TikTok at that time. So crazy. Arizona Zervas, Roxanne, like Stupid Ashnikko, like so many songs.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
But I feel like you've done a very good job of sustaining yourself as an artist versus... Because I think there's a difference between having viral songs and then being able to connect those songs to the actual artist.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Incredible.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
It's maybe like 20, 25 a year probably. Probably went up with TikTok back in that time.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Making me emotional.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
What was the next song that you felt like you had fun that you made after La La La then?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I believe it's the second one. Yeah, onomatopoeia.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
So the horns were added at the very end, the part that you hear at the very beginning. So it's all these, like... That's really cool, because it's all, like, the intro parts of the song that seem to be connecting really well so far. But also, I remember...
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
the filter that both you and rich brian did with the with the thing and i just remember that just going crazy every single time was that was that just like a random filter that you found on so basically what happened was i just did one filter and i just it was like but but but but but but
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Because it was like a bear running, right?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
That's sick.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
You talk about fandom, and you talk about audience and everything like that, and even Chinese TikTok Douyan. You have a pretty tight-knit fandom in China, is that correct?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I've heard you talk about it several times, but how did that happen?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
So it wasn't on the internet?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
chinese social media and i just went gigaviral what year was this 2017 was that like one of the the things that like kind of pushed you into like not like really kind of started your career i guess you could say yeah so um
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Yeah, what I find interesting is, like, in a similar way, most creatives I've talked to who have, like, developed success in some way right before they're about to quit. Like, right before. Or, like, the day that they decide, like, I'm done. I can't do this anymore. Something changes. Yeah. Same thing happened in a similar way to me, so I completely get that. What happened to you?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I got a job at a financial firm and I was trying to make content at the same time. I was working at a call center and I decided that I was going to Just going to work at a call center, be a nine to five worker for the rest of my life. And I was never going to be able to do this ever.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And then I posted a story that one of my favorite EDM artists, Porter Robinson, was going to be at a music festival that I used to work. And through people watching that story, eventually got reached out by his manager being like, yo,
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
porter porter would be down to make content you want to come out and i was like i don't know like let me find out for my job and i find out that that would have been like the first day i started at this new job so i either had to quit or work this job for the rest of my life and i decided to quit i went to the festival um he unfortunately ended up getting covid but he's the reason porter robinson to this day he doesn't know this um whenever i talk to him he's the reason that i went full-time in a sense because of that have you how does he not know this
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
We've possibly talked... Like, I've talked to his people about it a couple times, but maybe... I'm sure one day it'll happen in some way. But everyone I've talked to kind of has a similar thing, so that's kind of cool.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
hit the fucking man up god damn it so uh edamame massive song super cool song one of the people who worked on that song isn't it diamond pistols is that right yeah you have a song with diamond pistols solo i i love that song help herself oh yeah that song rocks that song's great yeah so like emotional so real tell me about that song
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Okay, here's where I wanna ask a question. Cause you say marketing the album. When I think of like marketing and music today, it's so like behind content. When you say marketing the album and putting money behind it, what does that mean exactly?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
So I, I I'm excited to hear it. Were there any songs that you've made that you didn't expect to be hits?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Yeah. Even one of the songs you put out, It Boy, you had a whole thing. Was it like you creating DMs as if Eminem was DMing you, or was it like Eminem DMing you?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Gotta come to Mexico.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Wait, wait, wait. When were you born?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
When were you born?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
So, like, right there. It's like zillennials.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And I was like, when you have that crazy hit with La La La, was there a lot of pressure to perform again? Yeah, big time. What happened? Incredible. Welcome back to Behind the Wall. Super excited today because we have the one, the only, BB No Money.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And who knows? Maybe he will get on it one day.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
You don't think it works well for, like, to get the song more out there to get it?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I really liked Old Town Road when they added Billy Ray.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
But he will.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
One of the other songs that really stood out to me was, I really love Nile Rodgers. I think he's one of the most prolific songwriters ever. What made you want to sample him? And then how did Lil Freak come about?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
She probably knew it really well.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
So in a sense you interpolated it.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
That's crazy.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Sounds like it. You talked earlier about collaborating with Moist Critical. That's crazy. How did that happen?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Yeah. You guys were both dancing like crazy. I saw his little thing on like talking about every single dance move. I saw that.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Um, Is there a big difference between music that performs well on streaming platforms, music that performs well on radio, and music that performs well for sync?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Yeah, it really wasn't.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Or Mood, 24K Golden.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Like that one. Yeah.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
When you have a song, do you come up with an entire content plan of like, here's what we're gonna do, here's how we're gonna try to make the song do well?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Do you find that you like your songs more when they do well? Like when they stream high, when, when everything like that, or like before you put it out, it doesn't really impact your opinion on it.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
How did you develop that skill?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Your first viral video, how many videos did you post until the first one really hit? Do you remember the first video that really took off for you?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I feel like you had massive ones. I feel like you had one that were like over 50 million and stuff like that too.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Hanging low. You have been working. You mentioned gravy. You've been working and collaborating with gravy for like years now, right? You guys kind of like came up together.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
How'd that happen?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Mr. Clean.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Like Facebook Messenger?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
You also, it's cool to have someone that you were at nothing. I also like being able to like have success together and then be like, you were there when I was like at nothing and have this really great relationship.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Were your parents supportive of music when you first started? No.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
At what point was it, like, your parents kind of accepting, like, oh, no, you've kind of figured this. Like, at what point was it, like, they could see it?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
That's crazy.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Being global is great. I remember there was a big documentary that came out with a band that did Teenage Dirtbag. And now, like, in America, nobody knew who they were, but when they left for England and all these other places, they were just, like, massive stars. Yeah.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And there was a bit of, like, it said in the documentary, a bit of resentment to be, like, we're massive stars over here, but we haven't been able to make it in our home country. Yeah. But... I mean, it's interesting to see like someone to have such success around the world and then to continue to build in where they're from.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Have you been to Japan?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
This is great.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
No. Never.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And now you're going on a tour in Japan.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
When are you going on a tour in Japan?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I've been to Mexico.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I love it. Yeah. Alex, it's been so great to chat with you.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I started this series to shine a light on the people and stories behind music, movies, and media, but it's also to inspire every underdog to go for it. You know, me personally never thought I'd be able to sit down with people like you to be able to get their stories and everything like that.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
So what is a piece of advice you have for anyone out there who wants to get into music, into like creative, become an artist, have their life be something that they want to live?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Just, like, the whole day you're making music?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Shout out.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I love it. Yeah. Well, appreciate you. Thank you so much for being a part of this.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Is there anything that you want to shout out or promote or anything like that at all?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
So I want to like get to the point of La La La. But first, what I found interesting about your story is that compared to a lot of artists and people who are successful in the industry, you started a bit later than where a lot of people like kind of start when it comes to music. How did you find your way to music and how did you decide this is what I want to do for the rest of my life? Yeah.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Everyone give it up for Baby No Money. I love it.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
It's a pleasure. Great to meet you as well. What's really fun about your story is that I remember I started posting on TikTok around May of 2019. And I started posting content like three to five times a day for like Three years straight. And I remember back in May of 2019, there were all these songs that were going super viral. And one of the ones that went crazy was La La La.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Ableton 10. Or was that like way or like nine?
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
It would make sense that a lot of your fans are also chronically online.
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Bbno$: The Man Who Cracked The Viral Music Code - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Same though. I'm also chronically online. It's a problem.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
This interview is dedicated to the beloved artist and One Direction's own Liam Payne. I never had the honor of meeting Liam, but his presence in music meant so much to me and so many others around the world. His voice and impact will live on forever.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
You're really the sixth member of One Direction.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
So the next part of the story, does that lead to X factor then?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
That's crazy.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Wow.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
welcome back to behind the wall super excited because we have somebody today who's one of the biggest names and people in all of music and movies five years ago it was said that you sold over 300 million records that's records not streams as in physical records if we were gonna say streams on spotify alone i was actually doing the math last night in my bed i was counting up
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
And what were you doing on X Factor?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
I saw some of those.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
In this interview, I had the privilege of chatting with legendary songwriter Savin Kotecha, one of the key people who helped Liam, One Direction, and so many artists find their voice. This conversation was recorded before Liam's tragic passing, a loss that has deeply affected so many around the world.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
and just on spotify savin said from my rough math it's over 40 billion streams in fact savin you've written co-written and made some of the biggest songs of all time and i'm so excited to be sitting down and chatting with you today oh thanks man for anyone who doesn't know who you are what are some of the songs that they would know you from oh gosh i'm old so let's see um
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
And the song also sounded like it came from a genuine place.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
For sure. I want to, I want to come back to what makes you beautiful. Cause like statistically one of the biggest songs, one direction, one of the biggest statistically, one of the biggest groups of all time. Uh, but many people may not know that you're like really the sixth member of one direction in a way you kind of helped develop and, and form and push them as, as a, as a group.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
What was that process like to kind of mentor them?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
So you mentioned it earlier with what makes you beautiful, but tell me how you wrote One Directions, what makes you beautiful?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
I'd love to see that. Not, not now.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Interesting.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
we're going to go over all of them. There's so, there's so many, it's actually incredible in terms of everyone I've talked to the amount of hits you have. It's insane. And especially like songs that I grew up with listening. It's some of my favorite songs ever. Even like when you just said right now, DJ got us falling in love again by Usher. He just performed at the Superbowl.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
interesting yeah i for to have a song as big as what makes you beautiful though it probably opened up so because because you had uh dj got his phone in love again with with usher and you had things where like hits with artists who've had hits yeah but then when it came to one direction it's kind of breaking a a group into the world was that like a different
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Like that's, that's crazy. I had no idea you wrote that one. Oh, it was, that was a fun one. So I definitely want to go over all of those, but I was looking further into your story and now it's time I ask an important question. Is it true that Uncle Jesse from Full House was what inspired you to start writing music?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
I also was so surprised to hear... I had forgotten that Cher Lloyd and One Direction were on the same season, which is crazy. That song, Want You Back, has actually come back recently on social media. I don't know if you've seen it.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
It's gone viral again, the verse part, which is really fun.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
How was the process of writing Cher Lloyd's Want You Back?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
You know, it's interesting because Max Martin considered to be probably, I'm going to say one of because there's so many, but one of the greatest producers and so you could argue the greatest songwriter, greatest producer of all time. Also, you know, a collaborator of yours, a mentor. What are three lessons you've learned working with him?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Got it. Awesome. I'm pretty sure... where I want to cover now is some of the songs that you wrote in that whole, uh, Max Martin, Carl, like that, those kinds of days. Yeah. Some of those songs before we move on to one of my favorite artists. Um, but I think the only demo I've ever heard Max singing on, I believe it's DJ goddess fallen in love.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
I think it's on YouTube and I can show it to you. Oh wow. After, um, how, what, how was it like to write ushers DJ goddess fallen in love? Um,
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Yeah.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Oh, wow.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Maybe there was a reason it needed to be a lower key because then it connected with people even more.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
I also will say that like DJ got us falling in love again is a really great line for DJs to play the song.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Now, one of the biggest songs of the 2010s is Justin Bieber and Nicki Minaj's Beauty and the Beat. That's another one with Max. I remember in Justin Bieber's documentary, there's a line of Justin Bieber singing it and Max Martin saying, oh, that's incredible. You're such a great singer. How was it like to make that song?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
So the next artist that you help break is one of the biggest artists in the world today. In fact, your first song with her just hit a billion streams, Santa Tell Me.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Tell me about how you started working with Ariana Grande.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
And I wish that Liam could see how many people and how many lives he changed because of his incredible voice, his incredible message, and his incredible music. Before we begin, Savan asked me to share this heartfelt message in honor of Liam and his family. Hey, everyone. Since this conversation with Daniel was recorded, the world has changed with the tragic passing of Liam Payne.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
I got one less.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
It's a great song.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
And also amazing song.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
That's incredible.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
So problem kind of started with you being on a plane with people around you. So you're whispering into your phone. That's really funny. Tell me a bit about Love Me Harder and then also The Weeknd with that song too.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
That's incredible.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Going back to Ariana real quick, I also looked up that you wrote, this is so crazy to me, you wrote two songs for the show Victorious as well.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
So now today you've written massive songs. You've been a part of massive songs. You've co-written them. But I wanted to ask because I think it's a really important part of your story. One of the things that I've tried to do with this series was to shine a light on the people and stories behind music, movies and media. Recently, it's changed.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
My goal has a mission with this series is more to inspire every underdog to go for it. I think your story really fits into that mission really well.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
that's what got that pre-course right amazing you know three of the biggest women in music being Jessie J Ariana Grande Nicki Minaj you mentioned it briefly earlier but bang bang how did that song come together
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
It's massive.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
You made another song with Ariana Grande where it's kind of credited as being the catalyst for a lot of other songwriters and producers to learn how to make pop music. It was leaked onto the internet, the stems of the song. I've had quite a few music producers and songwriters tell me that this song was the reason that they know how to do pop music today. That's Ariana Grande's Into You.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
And loving it.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Amazing. The next group of songs by Ariana, there's two of them that I really want to go over. But there's a leaked demo of God is a Woman by another artist, Camila Cabello. How was it like to make God is a Woman with Ariana?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Easy to get to? Yeah.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
I love it.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Amazing. You just mentioned No Tears Left to Cry, Ariana Grande. Is that a similar story of how that song came about?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Definitely. It's interesting because You've written so many songs with her, with her team, with Max, for Ariana. We just heard No Tears Left to Cry, Breathing, Greedy, Break Up With Your Girlfriend, I'm Bored. But it's interesting because Ariana Grande's most viral song on social media is an unreleased song. But what amazed me is you're credited as the producer and background vocalist for it.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
I don't know if you remember it, but do you remember making a song called Fantasize?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Kind of like a parody thing.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Was that a good break from everything?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
You know, if before a big catalyst for you or like what was giving you value at the time was success. Has that changed now?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
I appreciate you talking about all of this because I think it's something that often doesn't get brought up when it comes to talking about the industry, when it comes to talking about even like creators today with viral posts. They put their entire value worth on if a video goes viral. I've even done that where if a video doesn't do well, I feel horrible about myself.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Definitely. I'm glad we talked about that specifically. Are you comfortable continuing to talk about the hits?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Again, like that's something that I'm experiencing right now and I'm trying to figure out as well. So a lot of those questions are, For sure, for anyone who's watching. But also, I almost feel that I'm approaching that level of tying self-worth to that. I've been trying to figure out how to go away from that. So I'm glad to hear you.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
So you just had a big hit with Ariana Grande and The Weeknd, Love Me Harder. Is that how The Weeknd, Can't Feel My Face, comes together?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
As you'll hear in my conversation with Daniel, my time with Liam in One Direction was truly life-changing. Liam played a huge role in making my wildest dreams come true. He was a light, and I'll forever be grateful that he was a part of my life. I know I speak for millions of fans when I say he will be missed beyond words. Lots of love, Sava.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
then you go on to have hits with sam smith then it didn't it wasn't huge at first but today demi lovato's most viral song that has taken over tick tock was cool for the summer
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
This is us inspired.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
And so you, you write into your phone a lot of the times.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
I just love her. You also wrote, you also co-wrote one of, actually, I think it's Ellie Golding's biggest song, Love Me Like You Do. How did that song come about?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
This is like, you know, you start making music for movies and,
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
You know, I love that movie. Eurovision song contest is, is a movie that, that me and my family watch all the time. Will Ferrell, one of the best comedy actors or actors of our generation.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
How was it like working with him?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Big fan of that song, by the way.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Yeah. It's, it's funny cause Anne Hathaway is a big part of that movie.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
She had a really big moment for music with Les Mis and everything like that. Um, in terms of creating music for a fictional boy band, is that different from writing music normally or is it pretty much the same process?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Definitely. I want to come back to the idea of you. Um, one song I really wanted to ask about one of my favorite songs in the entire film, who's a Vic hometown. Is it true that that song wasn't originally supposed to be in the film at first?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
And then sung by Molly Sundin.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Amazing. For the idea of you, you definitely had to channel the songwriting from boy bands and everything like that. Why are you are you super excited for that movie specifically to come out?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Amazing. And it's great that the song connected with a ton is literally the name of the entire film.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Are there any songs, like for all the songs you've written, is there any one that like is your favorite for any like specific reason or anyone that like really stands out in particular?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
It's actually funny because most, like the biggest Christmas songs aren't written by people who celebrate Christmas, which is awesome. I love that. I love that there are so many people... able to share their own version of the holiday and be a part of it still. But one of my theories about it is people connect with Christmas music because of nostalgia. So they grow up hearing it.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
So a song doesn't become a Christmas hit or a classic until around 20 to 30 years after it comes out. And I feel like that's happening with three songs in particular. One is Santa Tell Me. Another is Mistletoe, Justin Bieber. And the other is Underneath the Tree, Kelly Clarkson. I think those are the three songs we're going to see also become classics.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Well, when you can, I'm very excited to watch and see them and be a part of it as well, because, you know, you've done so much and you're a huge inspiration to everyone out there, but especially me. So thank you so much. Thank you so much for everything that you've done being a part of this.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
I want to ask, what's a piece of advice you have for songwriters, producers, anyone that wants to get in this industry? Be a creative.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
That's just Spotify.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Amazing. Thank you so much, Savin, for being a part of this. It literally means the world. This is for you.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
That also means the world coming from you. And I'm glad we find it's been a long time coming. So I'm glad we finally had the chance to chat and hopefully continue chatting for the future.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
This is before they were big, right?
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
One of the biggest names and people in all of music. Usher. Ariana Grande. One Direction. It was said that you sold over 300 million records.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
Amazing.
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Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
That's a crazy story. You brought up your family for a sec there. Music is kind of a untraditional path, especially for someone coming from a very traditional family. Were your parents supportive of you in this career?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ich bin super gespannt darauf. War Heart Attack zuerst ein Hit?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Was that also one of her first big hits?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Next up, is it Talk Dirty?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ich bin sehr gespannt auf das. Aber für alle, die es nicht wissen, nicht wissen, wer du bist. Was sind deine Lieblingssongs? Was sind deine Lieblingssongs, die du gearbeitet hast? Mal sehen.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Talk Dirty hat eine Sample drin. Wusste du, dass es eine Sample war, als du es geschrieben hast?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ich habe ein bisschen auf deine Geschichte geschaut. Und es gab einen Punkt in der Zeit, an dem du darüber gesprochen hast, wie du versuchst, Hits zu machen. Und dann war es nicht gesund. Es fühlte sich nicht gut an für dich. Und plötzlich gibst du dir auf das. Du sagst, ich will nur Musik machen. Ja. Und es gibt eine ganz andere Veränderung im Kopf und Mindset für dich. Ja.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Mit diesem neuen Mindset kamen einige der Songs, die du vorhin erwähnt hast, nämlich Girls Like You und What Lovers Do. Ich möchte hören, wie diese Songs aussehen. Ja.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Was war die Geschichte, wie Girls Like You gemacht wurde?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
And then Cardi B gets on the remix.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Massiv, massiv Hit.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Hey, ich bin okay damit. Einer der höchsten, auch einer der höchsten YouTube-Videos von einer Band.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Es ist 3,3 Milliarden.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
3,3 Milliarden Views. Der einzige Grund, warum ich das weiß, ist, weil ich eine andere Person getroffen habe, die die Nummer 1 hat. Und es ist Ryan. Tedder? Ja. Was hat er? Counting Stars. Das sind 3,6 Millionen gerade.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Es ist wie ein Gruppe und sie sind in einem Warehaus. Es könnte sein. Da ist ein Krokodil drin. Das ist der größte. Ich kann keinen, der höher ist. Wow. Selbst BTS ist bei 1,5 Milliarden. Von dem, was ich sehe. Ich weiß. Verdammt, Ryan. Das ist unglaublich. Und er hat auch diese Masters. Nein, er hat keine Masters.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Wahnsinn. Die Lied, die wir gerade über Mädchen wie dich gesprochen haben, ist eine massive Lied. Was machen Liebhaber, bevor oder nach dem Lied?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
I think so. Ich bin mir nicht sicher. Ryan hat mir erzählt, dass der letzte Single für Schriftsteller toll ist, weil es der ist, den sie immer auf Radio spielen. Interessant. Und der erste Single ist für euer Ego, der letzte Single ist für euren Bankkonto. Das waren seine Worte. Das ist gut. Das ist gut. Ich möchte die Geschichte von What Lovers Do hören, weil diese Song auch großartig ist.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
What was the process for that song?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Hayley Aoki? Ja, ja, ja. Ich kenne sie aus Lemonade Mouth, richtig? Oder habe ich das falsch gemacht?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Und du hast gesagt, Beiber wollte das Lied?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Das Lied... Wenn das Lied kommt, jamme ich. Du hast riesige Lieder geschrieben, du hast großartige Lieder geschrieben, du hast Lieder geschrieben, von denen manche ihre Favoriten sind. Ich wollte kurz zurückgehen, was dich in die Musik gebracht hat und was dich dazu gebracht hat, zu schreiben und zu produzieren?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
And that's how girls like you, how you were able to send him.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Amazing. Exactly. It's almost like you are helping the next generation in a sense.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ist das Coldheart?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Es gibt ein paar andere Songs, die ich wirklich ein großer Fan bin, die nicht für etwas anderes sind. Es sind einfach Songs, die ich liebe. Eine davon ist Rufus' Do Soul Treat You Better.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ich war... jetzt schlägst du sie auf mich auf. Warst du das geplant?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Es kam zu dem Punkt, wo ich angefangen habe... Ich war wirklich interessiert, also habe ich Content gemacht. Eines der ersten Videos, die ich gemacht habe, die mir wirklich Spaß gemacht hat, waren Lieder, die gleich klingen. Und ich fand Lieder, die gleich klingen, natürlich aufgrund des Titels. Und... Taylor Swift's Look What You Made Me Do samplte eine andere Musik.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ich wusste nicht, dass sie sie samplten. Sie antworteten, ich bin zu sexy für mein Shirt. Und ja, das macht es. Sie haben Kredit. Und ich war so, was? Und diese Stimme kam einfach raus. Und seitdem das passiert ist es so, dass ich seit ich fünf Jahre alt bin. Und es ist einfach etwas, was ich aufnehmen kann, wenn ich es brauche. Aber ja, es ist wirklich lustig.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ich weiß nicht, ob du den größten Songwriter im ganzen Weltkrieg kennst, weil ich neben ihm bin. Es ist einfach wie die Anfangspunkte. Es bringt dich dazu, dass du dich aufhören kannst, nachdem du runter gehst. Es ist wie, oh, du bist mit mir auf der Reise. Also ja, wir machen sie alle und ich mache sie in der Song. Hast du Physical von Dua Lipa gehört?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Weil ich mit dem Mann bin, der es geschrieben hat. Und ich würde gerne hören, wie die Song gemacht wurde. Okay. Kann ich zuerst trinken? So while Jason is going to the bathroom, I wanted to just say thank you so much to one million of you for officially subscribing to this channel. Wow! One million members of our community, a part of Behind the Wall now. That is incredible. I remember...
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Wow, vor sechs Jahren habe ich angefangen, auf diesem Kanal zu posten. Und ich habe nur weiter und weiter und weiter gepostet. Und weißt du, nichts hat sich wirklich verbunden, bis zwei Jahre nach dem Posten von Kurz- und Langform-Videos.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Und auch dann habe ich so viel Spaß gemacht, Content zu machen und Content zu posten über die Hintergrund-Szenen der Musik und der Songwriter und Produzenten und Hintergrund-Szenen von Filmen und Hintergrund-Szenen von allen Arten von Dingen. Und es war so viel Spaß, Ich kann nicht glauben, dass nach sechs Jahren
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Wir haben 1 Million Zuschauer erreicht und jetzt möchte ich mit 1 Millionen von euch sprechen. Wenn du ein neuer Zuschauer bist, hallo. Wenn du ein alter Zuschauer bist, was ist los? Wenn du nicht abgeschaltet bist, spreche ich nicht mit dir mehr. Ich spreche mit den 1 Millionen Menschen, die auf diesem Kanal abgeschaltet sind.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Es ist so unglaublich, dass 1 Millionen von euch Teil dieser Gemeinschaft sind. Aber ich will nie sehen, dass etwas diese Gemeinschaft beschädigt, wie wir es mit anderen Plattformen sehen. I'm so excited to say that we're officially going to have an exclusive community for Behind the Wall. For all of those who want to go even further behind the wall. For all of you who have more questions.
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Who want to learn about the behind the scenes of music, movies and media. For the people who want to help me come up with questions for the people I'm talking to. For the people who want even more exclusive content. For the people who want even better content. Including this episode that you're watching right now.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Wir werden Dinge machen, die die Leute noch nie gemacht haben, im Hintergrund der Musik. Ich weiß nicht wirklich, ob Jason das jemals gemacht hat. Als Beispiel geht Jason Evigan über seine echten Demonstrationen für die Lieder, die wir in diesem Episodemonstrationen sprechen. Wir hören die nie vorher gehörtem Demonstrationen von einigen der größten Lieder jemals.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
girls like you what lovers do hate me ellie golden juice world chains nick jones chains we don't even talk about that song in the interview but he plays us the actual demo and tells us how it happened and which artists almost had the song it's crazy and i'm so excited to be launching this and to have you a part of this behind the wall community you guys are such a big part of the reason that i'm able to even do these videos so if you want to support and
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Be a part of the community. If you just want to support, please check out our exclusive community. So thank you all so much for 1 million subscribers. Thank you all so much for being a part of this community. And thank you so much for going behind the wall with me. But until then, I think Jason Evigan might be out of the bathroom by now. Let's get back to Jason Evigan.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
So there's a couple songs I'm interested in, in terms of songs that you're interested in chatting about.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Oh, sick. One of the songs that I think connected with the recent internet generation was Hate Me. Yeah. Ellie Goulding, Juice WRLD. How did that song happen? I'm really curious about that one, actually.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Bist du sich daran gewöhnt? Ja, jetzt weiß ich, was sie tut.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
That song, like, touched a generation right there. Especially, like, on TikTok. Really? Yeah. How so? There's all these, like, videos that were created. It went, like, super viral on there. Really? Oh, yeah. Dang. That's awesome. What's your thoughts on TikTok's impact on the music industry?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Es scheint so zu sein, dass die Musik heute so auf Kultur konzentriert ist, als wie großartig der Song ist. Wie er es auf der Internetseite macht, ist ein großer Einfluss darauf, wie gut der Song sein wird. 100 Prozent. Denn das ist der Hauptgerät jetzt.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Versus being in the room with the artists and helping them.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Yeah. A hundred percent.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
For sure. I think that there's a great benefit to having a more even playing field for independent artists. And that's what it is kind of allowed. But at the same time, it, Es sah so aus, als ob es Möglichkeiten gab, in der Musik erfolgreich zu sein, und plötzlich wurde das von dem traditionellen Fluss, der Art und Weise, wie die Dinge waren, unterbrochen.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Die Radio-Welt war schon eine gute Menge Zeit her, oder?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Und auch vor der Radio-Welt war es nicht wirklich ein Weg, Musik gut zu monetisieren. All of a sudden, als die Radio-Welt kam, begann die Industrie wirklich zu kreieren. Alles mit dem ganzen Prozess von Songwriters und Produzenten. Und jetzt, all of a sudden, fühle ich mich, dass es dieses große... Weil damals war es sehr schwierig, Lieder zu machen und sie in die Welt zu bringen.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Es gab eine große Barriere. Du hattest einen Wettbewerb, um Musik zu machen, weil es so teuer war, um die Lieder zu machen. Und dann hat sich das plötzlich verändert, weil es so einfach ist, Songs auf diesen Plattformen rauszuholen, dass die große Barriere kommt von, okay, es sind 75.000 Songs, die jeden Tag rauskommen, nur auf Spotify.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Was kann ich tun, was mich differenziert, um diese Song zu bemerken? Es gibt so viel Wettbewerb, dass es jetzt schwierig ist. Und all das Wettbewerb geht zu TikTok, um zu sagen, was kann ich tun, was mich mit dieser Song differenziert, um sie in irgendeinem Weg zu fangen. Ja.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Definitiv. Es ist cool. Du hast viel in deiner Karriere gemacht und so viel erzielt. Und letztens, einer dieser Dinge, ist ein Grammy gewonnen. Glückwunsch auf das. Super spannend. Danke. Danke. War das etwas, was dein Ziel war, als du zu Beginn in die Musik gekommen bist?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Und sag mir, ob ich mich hier falsch mache, hast du auf Treat You Better gearbeitet? Ist das richtig?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Das ist eines meiner Lieblingssongs. Ehrlich? Ja. Was war das so zu machen und zu arbeiten?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Also sie sind nicht einfach auf der Wand. Versus 30 Minuten für einen anderen Song.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ich habe mit Julia über diesen Song gesprochen, was eine der einzigen Gründe ist, dass ich dich aufhören muss, deine Perspektive zu hören. Aber... Wie war es, Miss Moving On von Fifth Harmony zu schreiben? Das war schon lange her. Ja.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Es ist wie wenn die Jungs gewinnen, weißt du? Definitiv. Ja. Es scheint, dass du nicht nur... Hoffnungen hast, einen Erfolg für dich zu erreichen, sondern auch Hoffnung, dass jeder, der dich umdreht, Erfolg bekommt. Ich denke, das ist... ...ein wirklich wichtiges Stück zu haben. Ja. Was ist ein Stück Hinweis, den du hast für... ...Sänger, Songwriter, Produzenten, Leute, die in die Industrie wollen?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ich würde sagen...
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Wir haben dieses Ding gemacht, das heißt, was in der Tasche ist. Es ist im Grunde ein Geschenk. Und das Problem war, dass ich das nicht wirklich für dich bekommen wollte, ohne dass du es eigentlich willst. Okay. Weil es alles mit Teen Beach Movie begonnen hat. Und so habe ich das schnell gemacht, aber ich würde es eigentlich gemacht und verletzt, wenn du es tatsächlich... Oh mein Gott.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Wenn du es tatsächlich willst.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Es ist nicht cool. Aber die Wahrheit ist, es hat angefangen. Ich werde ehrlich sein. Ich denke, es ist eine der coolsten Dinge. Wirklich? 100 Prozent. Der Fakt, dass deine Stimme in einem Disney Channel Film ist und du nicht nur einige der größten Hits heute geschrieben hast, sondern du hast einige der Songs geschrieben, die so viele Menschen beeinflusst haben. Und ich fühle mich auch so,
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Eines der Dinge, die ich nicht so viele Leute bekommen, ist, dass Kinder aufwachsen, um Älteren zu werden. Und das, was sie als Kinder liebten, ist das, was nostalgisch und cool wird. Meine Generation liebt Disney Channel-Stuffe. Jonas Brothers kamen zurück, um einen Grund. Und ich habe das Gefühl, dass die nächste Generation, die unter mir ist, das liebt.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
This was the whole reason I'm here.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Du bist ein toller Kerl, du bist ein toller Kerl. Dieser Kerl ist gut. Danke so sehr, dass du hier bist und Teil davon bist. Es ist großartig. Was ist in diesem? Das ist nur eine Danke-Karte. Danke. Du kannst das in deinem eigenen Zeitraum lesen. Okay, cool, cool. Und dann...
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ich weiß nicht, ob du genug Zeit für das hast, aber ich denke, es wäre cool, die Demos zu sehen, über die du vorhin gesprochen hast. Ja, lass uns sie finden. Wir machen es. Vielen Dank, dass du uns auf Behind the Wall mitgebracht hast. Ja, danke. Dieser Typ ist hier. Er ist ein besonderes, kleines, besonderes Mensch hier, weißt du?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
War es die Nummer 1 Billboard-Sendung? Hier ist ein neuer Song von Rastara. Bleib bitte sehr niedrig.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Was hast du für Austin Alley gemacht?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Warte, das ist großartig.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ja, mit mich und Mitch. Und Mitch arbeitet auf all dem Disney-Stuff, oder?
Behind The Wall
Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Today on Behind the Wall, we're thrilled to be able to sit down with one of the biggest songwriters and producers in the world.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Was that a big step in your career? Was that the first thing that was like, Das ist das, was ich machen will. Ich will Songs für andere schreiben und produzieren.
Behind The Wall
Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Behind some of the biggest songs for artists like Demi Lovato, SZA, Selena Gomez, Maroon 5, Ellie Goulding, Juice WRLD and so many more. But when one of the biggest artists in the world rejected him because they said he was too pop,
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Das ist übrigens ein fantastischer Song. Danke. Ich liebe es. Danke. Als ich als Kind das Lied auf dem Radio gehört habe, habe ich ein paar Demi Lovato-Vokalisten angeschaut. Und dann, als ich älter geworden bin und angefangen habe, Produktion zu lernen, habe ich das Lied zum ersten Mal wieder gespielt. Ich dachte mir, oh mein Gott, das Lied ist verrückt.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Aber auch die Produktion im Hintergrund, wenn der Chorus schlägt, das ist verrückt.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Oder hat es ihn... Erzähl mir den Prozess, wie du das Song gemacht hast und wie es in dem Ort war. Okay, also, an dem Zeitpunkt war meine Band so ein bisschen runtergegangen. Es war ein bisschen auf dem Aus, ein bisschen.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Wollte Nikki es zuerst singen?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Ja, sicher. War es eine große Zusammenarbeit, zumindest bei Heart Attack, war es eine große Zusammenarbeit zwischen dir und Sean für das Lied?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Er kam das erste Mal, als ich ihn kennengelernt habe. Oh, wirklich? Ja, das erste Mal, als ich ihn kennengelernt habe, ja.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Also das erste Mal, als ihr euch treffen, kommt er in den Raum, was passiert?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Lass uns hinter die Wand gehen mit Jason Evigan, einem Mann, der von Bandleiter zu Hitmaker, zu Grammy-Winner-Produzentin ging. Du bist bereit. Dieser Kerl ist gut. Für alle, die es nicht wissen, bin ich gerade mit dem einen und einzigen, Jason Evagant. Das ist schon lange her. Ich habe ein Video über Jason gemacht, ich glaube, vor einem Jahr. Und wir werden es machen.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Du versuchst es für andere Leute zu kaufen und es endet dann in Demi. Ja, sicher. Wir haben es für alle gekauft. Hatten die Leute, wie sie es denken, wie die Leute versuchen, es sofort aufzuhalten? Oder ist es ziemlich so, dass es nicht wirklich so ist, wie wir es jetzt wollen? Und es hat eine Weile gedauert, um mit Demi zu enden.
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Habt ihr jemals auf die Song geworfen?
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Jason Evigan: The Nicest Legend in Music - Behind the Wall (Ep. 14)
Wenn ihr es beendet und Demi ist dabei, und ihr sagt, diese Song ist anders. Das ist eine der ersten Songs, wo ich gesagt habe, diese Song, die ich gearbeitet habe, ist etwas Besonderes. Ist das das Gefühl? Oder ist es einfach so, ich mag das wirklich. Lass uns es ausmachen.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Unglaublich. Ja. Es klingt so, als ob die meisten talentierten und erfolgreichsten Songwriters, Produzenten und Menschen in der Industrie irgendeine Art von Mentorin haben, von der sie lernen. Was ist deine Empfehlung an die Leute da draußen, um einen Mentor zu finden? Und wie hast du Scott gefunden?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Truly my big brother. Love him a lot. Love that. He told me, he's like, I just wrote this song with Amy Allen and Scott Harris. It's gonna be coming out soon. And I'm really excited for it to come out. We'll see what happens. And actually that day, he played for me before it came out, 10.35. And I was like, this is gonna be crazy. So...
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Ich liebe es. Es ist interessant, dass du Gabs mitbringst. Ich habe ein Interview mit Gabs gemacht. Und sie hat darüber gesprochen, wie Scott Harris eine Nachricht zu Gabs geschrieben hat, dass Amy Allen der beste neue Songwriter ist, den ich je gesehen habe. Was denkst du, warum denkst du, dass Scott das geschrieben hat? Was denkst du über diese Session? Was hast du anders gemacht?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Das ist verrückt.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
I'm so excited to chat with you today. You are someone who has truly made a name for yourself. I started this series to shine a light on the people and stories behind music, movies and media. And you are someone who has truly done that in music. For anyone who may not know who you are, what are some of the songs they might know you from?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Worauf gravitate du jetzt?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
So you start working with Scott a ton. And how many sessions would you say you're doing like throughout the time in New York? Are you doing like stuff every single day? Are you doing like, are you writing so many songs, just getting reps, reps, reps in?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Während dieser Zeit, die du vorhin erwähnt hast, kommt Salida Gomez zurück zu dir. Was hat das für dich in deiner Karriere getan?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Als du das erste... War das der erste Song, den du jemals gedreht hast?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Als du den ersten Hits hattest, war da viel Druck, einen anderen hinzubekommen?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Du schreibst wahrscheinlich jeden Tag.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Ich glaube es. Dein zweiter Song, der sich ausfällt und wirklich verbindet, ist, du hast es vorhin gesprochen, das war Halsey's Without Me. Das war der erste, der Nummer eins für dich ging. Du hast Rekorde gebrochen, ich habe all diese Sachen gemacht. Was bedeutet das für dich?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Du bist von der Krankenklinik bis zu den Jahren später die Nummer 1-Song in der Welt.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Was hat dich überzeugt, nicht mehr in eine Ärzteschule zu gehen? Und Musik zu versuchen?
Behind The Wall
Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Ja, wenn ich höre über all die verschiedenen Songs, die du gemacht hast, scheint es so zu sein, dass du ein echtes Geschenk hast, um Künstler zu machen, sich zu fühlen, um die Kreativität herauszufinden. Aber wo ich anfangen möchte... Ich will alle Songs durchgehen und natürlich auch dein Artistprojekt.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Ich meine, aber...
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Amy Allen ist die beste neue Songwriterin, die ich je gesehen habe.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Got it. One of the reasons I asked that is you work with so many incredible artists as a songwriter. Sabrina, Tate, Rosé, Harry, so viele mehr, Halsey. Was ist dein Prozess beim Arbeiten mit verschiedenen Künstlern? Bist du wie ein Formulierer und steigst zwischen den beiden? Oder beobachtest du es immer gleich?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Eines der Dinge, über die ich mich immer gerne spreche, ist die Idee, dass es ein übernachtshafter Erfolg ist. Denn es gibt keine solche Sache. Niemand sieht es. Jeder sieht nur den Erfolg. Sie sehen nicht den Schwung und so weiter. Ich habe 150 Videos veröffentlicht und dann 3.500 Videos, um herauszufinden, was ich eigentlich mache.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Interessant. Es scheint, dass viele der Künstler, mit denen du arbeitest, eigentlich Freunde sind. Das ist cool, die Videos zu sehen.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Ja. Einer deiner Bucket-List-Artisten, mit denen du arbeitest, war es Harry Styles? War das einer von ihnen damals?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Eine meiner Lieblingssongs ist Adore You. Ich glaube, es ist so eine tolle Song. Ich liebe es absolut. Ich liebe es auch. Wie fühlte sich diese Session an und wie war es, diese Song anzuheben?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Wie viele Lieder würdest du sagen, dass du geschrieben hättest, bis Selena Gomez zurückgekommen ist?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Sabrina ist so lange in dieser Industrie gearbeitet. Sie arbeitet seit 10 Jahren. Und in der gleichen Art, wie du warst. Als Songwriter und so. Das ist eine meiner Lieblingspunkte von ihr.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Und es scheint, dass das, was sie wirklich auf den nächsten Niveau gedrängt hat, ihre Persönlichkeit mehr als alles in Songs, Nonsens-Outros, die verschiedenen Dinge zeigen, wer sie ist und dann auch die Sessionen zusammen sehen. Es scheint, dass ihr alle nur Spaß habt, während ihr Musik macht. Sagst du, das ist dein Ansatz, wenn du jetzt Songs machst?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Du hast auch mit Ryan Tedder gearbeitet. Ich habe ihn gefragt, ob er für dich Fragen hat. Er hat drei Fragen. Einer von denen ist nicht eine Frage, einer ist eher ein Statement. Perfekt. Der erste ist, ob du die Musikindustrie in jeder Stadt der Welt bewegen könntest und sie ausländisch verwendest, statt in L.A., wo wäre das und warum?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Definitiv. Der zweite war, vergleiche die Hits in 2024 mit dem Prozess, als du angefangen hast.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Als du den ersten Hits hattest, war da viel Druck, einen anderen zu finden?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Do you like that more?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Du und Ryan gehen weiter mit Scott Harris auf 10.35 Uhr. Und dann startest du mit Tate an so vielen verschiedenen Songs zu arbeiten. Wie funktioniert das mit ihr?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Einer meiner Lieblingsartisten ist Rosé. Ich liebe absolut alles, was sie mit Blackpink gemacht hat. Ich liebe absolut alles mit On the Ground und natürlich APT mit Bruno Mars. Das ist einer meiner Lieblingssongs. Ich liebe das Lied. Ich zeige es allen. Oh, danke. Erzähl mir über diesen Song.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Was hat dich in die Musik gebracht?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Wahnsinn. Und auch Bruno Mars, super verrückt. Ich bin ein großer Fan von seiner Geschichte, als Songwriter und als Künstler. Super cool. Phänomenal. You said that you did a Grammy panel this upcoming year. You were nominated for the second time for a Grammy Songwriter of the Year. Incredible. Thank you. I'm rooting for you. Thank you. What would it mean to you to win that? I think...
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Wir haben viel über dein Songwriting gesprochen, aber du hast als Künstler angefangen und hast deinen Weg zurückgefahren, um Künstler zu werden. Erzähl mir die Geschichte, was dich zurückgebracht hat, um Künstler zu werden.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Viele der Songs, die du mit anderen schreibst, die Choreos, sind die perfekten Melodien. Aber die Songs, die du für dich schreibst, sind sehr persönlich. Ist das ein anderer Prozess, wenn es um eine Song für dich geht?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Definitiv mehr persönlich.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Was sehr wichtig war, ist, dass du dich als Künstler entschieden hast, nachdem du eine der größten Songs im Weltraum geschrieben hast. Du warst so, ich werde mich auf dieses Projekt für mich konzentrieren. Was hat dich dazu gebracht und wie hast du das entschieden?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Even your first song that was released on Spotify, Queen of Silver Linings, with Dan Wilson.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
He said please, please, please.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Waren es andere Lieder, in denen es so fühlte?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Hattest du überhaupt Angst vor dem Studio, als du erst angefangen hast?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Ja, ich würde sagen, was interessant ist, du bist einer der, ich würde sagen, du bist einer der meisten, nicht sogar einer, du bist der erfolgreichste Songwriter des Jahres. Meine Meinung. Jemand kann sagen, was auch immer sie wollen. Das ist meine Meinung dieses Jahres.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Aber was interessant ist, ich bin sicher, du hast so viele Leute, die dich anrufen wollen, um in Sessionen zu kommen, aber du bist aus deinem Weg gegangen, um es als Priorität zu machen, Musik für dich selbst zu machen. Wie machst du das als Priorität, wenn du... der größte Künstler im ganzen Weltraum.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Das klingt so. Eine der Songs, die du gemacht hast, ist eine große Viralsensation mit einer Parodie geworden. Espresso. Oh, ja. Warte, das ist ein L-Bit?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Wie fühlt es sich an, wenn eine der Songs, die du gemacht hast, sogar größer wird als die Song selbst? Das ist verrückt. Ich habe gerade gesehen, dass er an einem der Shows war und er das gemacht hat. Das ist verrückt.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
You know, when I started this series, Amy, it was to shine a light on the people and stories behind music, movies and media. But as I've continued, it has evolved into this to inspire every underdog to go for it.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
What is your piece of advice for anyone out there who wants to get into the industry as a creative songwriter, artist? You've been all of them.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Das ist der einzige Hinweis.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Ich denke, ein sehr wichtiger Punkt als Künstlerin und Songwriter ist dein Warum. Warum gehst du immer als Songwriterin und Künstlerin weiter?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Ich denke, es ist sehr nützlich, nur weiter zu schreiben und Songwriter zu sein. Was ist dein nächstes Ziel als Künstler?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Es ist wirklich unglaublich, deine Reise gesehen zu haben. Ich denke, es ist sehr selten, einen Songwriter zu sehen, der so gut mit Künstlern arbeitet. Er ist in fast jedem Song auf Albums. Es ist unglaublich, das zu sehen. Aber auch, dass du deine Reise als Künstler gesehen hast. Ich wollte sagen, ich habe über deine Geschichte im Jahr 2022 gehört.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Es war mir eine große Ehre, heute mit dir zu sprechen. Danke. Das ist eine Dankeschön-Karte, um Teil von Behind the Wall zu sein.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Unglaublich. Hattest du in der Studie überhaupt keine Angst, als du erst angefangen hast?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Soll ich das später öffnen? Ja, ja, ja.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Ich habe sehr schlechte Handzeichen.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Ja, es ist lang. Ich bin ein langer Schreiner. So süß. Vielen Dank, dass du mitgekommen bist. Gibt es noch etwas, das du anrufen möchtest, was du dem Publikum sagen möchtest?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Unglaublich.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Das ist, was du tun willst. Das ist, was ich tun möchte. Yes, well, thank you so much for watching Behind the Wall. Everyone go listen to Amy's album. It'll be in the description. Her music will be in the description that she's written with others. And hopefully many more conversations in the future.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Also war das Konzept für die Klasse, dass du mit fünf anderen Leuten einen Song gemacht hast und es dann allen präsentiert hast?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Es gibt dieses Konzept, das ich von all diesen Songwritern und Produzenten höre. Diese Idee, sich zu trauen. Ist das eine Fähigkeit, die du entwickelt hast?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Du bist von der Krankenklinik bis zum Nr. 1. Song in the world.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
When you start working with a new artist, do you have a certain approach that you go about doing? Because you've worked with so many incredible artists.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
All these without me.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
You were nominated for the second time for a Grammy Songwriter of the Year.
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
Du hast gesagt, dass du zum Berklee-Kollege von Musik gingst. Du hast gesagt, dass ich ein bisschen in deine Geschichte geschaut habe. Es klingt, als ob einer deiner größten Mentoren Scott Harris ist. Was hast du von ihm gelernt? Und wie hast du mit ihm gearbeitet?
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Amy Allen: The Biggest Songwriter of The Year - Behind the Wall (Ep. 12)
So excited today. Welcome back to Behind the Wall. Today we have someone that has truly made a name for themselves as an artist, a songwriter, two-time Grammy-nominated songwriter, future Grammy-winning songwriter and future Grammy-winning artist. So excited. I've been wanting to chat with you for a long time now, Amy. Back in 2022, I got to talk to Ryan Tedder. And he told me... The big brother.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Okay, we're here. And we're back. Benny Blanco. It is such an honor to see you again.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
What made these songs feel like you were so like, yes, these are the ones. These are the ones I believe in.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Did you know that right from the demo or when Adam got on them?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
What I love most of all is like no one, it sounded like no one believed in those songs.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Until they're huge, until they are big.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
We have Diamonds, Rihanna.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Uh, same old love Selena.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Julia Michaels issues.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
You just did moves like Jagger.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Well, now you were starting to play me the demos and it just like brought like energy and joy to me so quickly. It's insane. First of all, like has anyone ever like heard these before? Besides the people who made them, which is. Yeah.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
She was like, I don't know.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
This is insane. This is amazing.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
You're helping me break ground.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I've heard glimpses of the diamond story, but I've never heard it.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
This was a big idea from Benny. Benny wanted to go over a lot of the demos. And one of the pieces that is really important to me for this series is, of course, to shine a light on the people and stories behind music, but it's also to inspire the next generation of creatives. Of course. And I think that this is something people can see how music is created.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I was like, well, also you really looked up to Eminem for the longest time, right?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I think it's going to drive a lot of people to be like, wow.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
That song was great.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
look maybe i can do it too oh you're so good at this you inspire me i get inspired that means the world you inspire me though ben um before we get into it a lot a lot has changed like since our last interview which by the way so many people loved so many people loved our last conversation so to do this again dream for me well i mean you you got engaged oh i did i did get engaged i did Amazing.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Yeah, this part's great.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
That is insane. Before you even started playing the song, that was the part I was singing in my head.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
That's it. Wow. That's what happens.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
There's this famous video of Sia playing it at some sort of conference.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I know. One of the songs we may go over today, I believe, was the first time you might have worked with Selena. Is that right?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
It makes it so much better.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
So they write, they're doing the song, they get it out, demo's there. How long does it take to get from a demo to a finished song then?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I think it's like 2015 or so.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
How long is a long time?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
how it might be different every time, but like when you are starting a song and doing a song with an artist, like, do you come with beats? Do you like try to make it right on the spot? Do you let the artists like lead the way? Does it depend on the person?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Let's say you're doing a new session right now with an artist you really want to work with. Is there an example of an artist you really want to work with right now?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Let's say, yeah. Okay, let's say you're working with me.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I think it was 2016.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Besides when you have a deadline and they're like, we need this song finished.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I know about Teenage Dream being the hardest song.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
All I know is that Snoop Dogg and Katy were in the viral video happened.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Okay. Are you still that? Are you still flying or do you not fly?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I don't. I kind of just like driving.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Yeah. Personally. Where do you live again? Arizona.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Like to the gym. That's it? Like if I need to go somewhere else. Like Scottsdale, Phoenix area.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Is that normal for a song?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Yeah. It's just very hot, especially in the summer.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I was planning. I was literally supposed to move a couple weeks back.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
We'll see. What? Yeah. What made you not want to? The day that I was supposed to move out here, everything started. And then my sub lease got canceled because of everything that's happened. I need to find another. Do you want to be out here? Every time I come out here, more exciting stuff like this happens. I feel like I've been in Arizona all my life, so it's probably time.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Yeah, here over Arizona to Burbank was 54 minutes.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
You've driven to where?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Really? You've been to Arizona?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
You drive from California to New York?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Yeah, but that's a cool story. Yeah, but that's- And also it was filmed.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
How many times have you done the boat?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
What do you do on the drives to New York?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Oh, that sounds enjoyable. That sounds better than a flight.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
How did this beat come about? How did you, what do you do for this?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
What I find interesting is a lot of these songs have that, you were playing it earlier, I forgot which one it was, but it was like just the basis of the parts of, and it was like the actual syncopation, but not the words.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
It's like the melody, and then someone comes in and top lines it.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
That's a crazy song to be on the toilet for.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Okay. I'm, I'm an Ableton user. Can you explain for an Ableton user?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Well, clearly it worked.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Do you find that like tempo really impacts a song?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Do you, so last time we talked about like how you make like different food for different artists. Yeah. What is like, do you find that like certain artists like different food? Like do you make a specific food for?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I am a big, my mom makes this really incredible chocolate chip pumpkin bread.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Made by my mom specifically, yeah.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
You're a very, like... very personable kind of like person just like personable kind of person yeah um the the the other two songs how much time do we have left to do stuff so i know we have until 11 so 30 more minutes so then what do we who do we we have blah blah blah you have edge here and divide also i mean you just have like so many so these were the songs that i was given but i mean like
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
You're, I mean, I'm fine to go over any of them.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I heard you say that.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Are you able to talk about the songs? Yeah.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
That's insane. First of all, I saw, I don't know if you said that in an interview.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
You guys wrote five number ones for other artists. I think so.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Incredible, by the way.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I heard Ed say that he doesn't even remember writing that song. I remember he said that he got a text from Diplo that was like, or like from you or him. And like, we're thinking about playing this song out. He's like, I don't even remember what that was.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
with julia yeah yeah yeah we made that was all made during that album like we made i think we have i think we have five that's the day y'all wrote dive too yeah that was the day we wrote that i know it's crazy it's so crazy i have a dumb question yes what okay you have like east side 1.0 4k 4j yeah what's your organization process like and then what does that mean
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Think about the idea.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
that you do that as well, right? You're able to listen to someone and come up with an idea in real time.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
We can always take this out if this is not something that you want to leave in. But for Julia, Julia was like one of the first interviews I ever had. Told me the story of Sari. She told me that the same day that Sari hit number one, they wrote the song. But Same Old Love also went number one on radio the same day. And she was saying that.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
But then she talked about like all these artists who wanted it. And there's only one that's leaked onto YouTube.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Charlie XCX. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was the person who helped co-write Same Old Love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is crazy to think about. Was there something about that demo and that song that everyone wanted issues from? It was just like...
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Yeah, I feel like we live in such an artist-dominated part now versus how it was back in the day, which is amazing.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
And you're excited to work with all of them.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
When you said that earlier about animals, by the way, taking eight years, I saw Timbaland said pony.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
He held on to that song for eight years.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Y'all have that in common. That's insane. So earlier when you were talking about like making a song with somebody, you go through the process of like connecting with... So, okay, here's what it sounds like actually is happening then. You have a conversation with the actual artist. They are telling their story. You guys are like forming an actual genuine connection.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
You guys have an actual genuine conversation. And it sounds like whatever you're talking about oftentimes becomes the song. Yeah, of course. Always. Do they... Okay, so I was in a session with somebody and I tried this process.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
We did this whole thing because like Tranter told me about this too with other things like that. And they wanted to stop writing because they felt it became too real.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Wow. So, okay. Going back to what we said at the beginning with this goal of like helping the next musical creatives, a lot of people who are watching right now, probably probably are, you know, making music, want to be songwriters, want to be producers, want to be artists.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
I think it's really cool because, I mean, this has never really been done before, like to a certain extent, but not to this level. So first of all, thank you so much for letting us go behind the wall and showing the demos of the songs. What is your advice to anyone out there who wants to, one, start making music or wants to start making music their full-time thing?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
For all the moms out there that are watching this right now.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
When I started the series, it was to shine a light on the people and stories behind music, but it was also to inspire every underdog to go for. I used to work, told you this last time, I used to work at a call center before that, like graduated without a job, wanted to do music, wanted to create videos, wanted to do interviews, wanted to do all these things. I made a vision board.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Put you, Tedder, Williams, John Williams, Hans Zimmer, so many, Chris Martin, so many people I wanted to talk to, collaborate with, meet. And I put it on the wall. I started making videos like crazy every single day with my shitty little iPhone and recording my 2015 MacBook Pro. And then after six years, and actually yesterday, I started to tear up, like tears of joy, like about this specifically.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Because I couldn't believe that something like this was able to happen something that like this to me like has always been a dream so the fact that I'm able to do this like for a living is incredible it's crazy and you like I think I think over time a lot of people have You're going to get like a million no's, but all you need is like that one person to believe in you.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
And luckily I had like five of my first interviews, people who like are some of my musical heroes, like Julia, like Tranner, like Tedder, like you. Aww. So I just wanted to say thank you again for doing this. Thank you. Thanks for letting us go behind the wall once more. We did it. We went behind the wall. To see the incredible demos of the songs. What's this? You always give me a little thing.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Because you're just the king. You're just a legend. And I appreciate you every single time.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
And this is probably going to drop around the time of your new project.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
This is something people can see how music is created. I think it's going to drive a lot of people to be like, wow, look, maybe I can do it too. Aw, you're so good at this. Me and Ed Sheeran. You guys wrote five number ones for other artists.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Are you able to talk about the songs that...
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
Oh my gosh. Hi. Here we are again with the one and only, one of my musical heroes, Benny Blanco. Where am I supposed to look? There's so many cameras.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
It was like Jagger was the song you were trying to make as your idea?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down The Original Demos of His Biggest Hits
So this one's on me, this one's on you, this one's on there, and this one's on us.
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What made these songs, what made these songs feel like you were so like, yes, these are the ones, these are the ones I believe in.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Did you know that right from the demo or when Adam got on them?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Well, now you were starting to play me the demos and it just like brought like energy and joy to me so quickly. It's insane. First of all, like has anyone ever like heard these before? besides the people who made them, which is. Yeah.
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We have Diamonds, Rihanna.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Uh, same old love Selena.
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Julia Michaels issues.
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You just did moves like Jagger.
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This is insane. This is amazing.
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You're helping me break ground.
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This was a big idea from Benny. Benny wanted to go over a lot of the demos. And one of the pieces that is really important to me for this series is, of course, to shine a light on the people and stories behind music, but it's also to inspire the next generation of creatives. Of course. And I think that this is something people can see how music is created.
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I've heard glimpses of the diamond story, but I've never- But never, we didn't do it.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Also, you really looked up to Eminem for the longest time, right?
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I think it's going to drive a lot of people to be like, wow. Look, maybe I can do it too. Aw. You're so good at this. You inspire me. I get inspired. That means the world. You inspire me, though, Ben. Before we get into it, a lot has changed since our last interview, which, by the way, so many people loved. So many people loved our last conversation. So to do this again, dream for me.
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Well, I mean, you got engaged.
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Yeah, this part's great.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
That is insane. Before you even started playing the song, that was the part I was singing in my head.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
amazing i know one of the songs we may go over um today i believe was the first time you might have worked with selena is that right yeah probably same old love same old yeah maybe yeah i think that might be the first time was that 2013 i looked it up i think it's like 2015 or so when did same old love come out
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That's it. Wow. That's what happens. Do you also have diamonds?
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There's this famous video of Sia playing it at some sort of conference.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Here's the original version with that.
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There's no shine bright like a diamond.
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So they write, they're doing the song, they get it out, demo's there. How long does it take to get from a demo to a finished song then?
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How long is a long time?
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how it might be different every time, but like when you are starting a song and doing a song with an artist, like, do you come with beats? Do you like try to make it right on the spot? Do you let the artists like lead the way? Does it depend on the person?
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Let's say you're doing a new session right now with an artist you really want to work with. Is there an example of an artist you really want to work with right now?
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Let's say, yeah. Okay, let's say you're working with me.
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Besides when you have a deadline and they're like, we need this song finished.
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All I know is that Snoop Dogg and Katy were in the viral video happened.
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Okay. Are you still that? Are you still flying or do you not fly?
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i fly when i like do you hate it i i don't i did i kind of just like driving personally really yeah personally where do you live again arizona do you drive in arizona yeah like to the gym that's it like if i need to go somewhere else like scottsdale phoenix area oh it's so pretty over there yeah it's just very hot especially in the summer are you gonna move
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I was literally supposed to move a couple weeks back.
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What? What made you not want to? The day that I was supposed to move out here, everything started. And then my sublease got canceled because of everything that's happened.
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need to find another do you want to be out here every time i come out here more exciting stuff like this happens and i feel like like i've been in arizona all my life so it's probably time yeah i feel like if you're out here you'll be doing these every day probably it's crazy i don't even know how you do this many from being in arizona it's such a quick flight though
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Yeah, here over Arizona to Burbank was 54 minutes.
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You've driven to where?
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Really? You've been to Arizona?
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You drive from California to New York?
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Yeah, but that's a cool story. Yeah, but that's- And also it was filmed.
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How many times have you done the boat?
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What do you do on the drives to New York?
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Oh, that sounds enjoyable. That sounds better than a flight.
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How did this beat come about? How did you, what did you do for this?
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What I find interesting is a lot of these songs have that, you were playing it earlier, I forgot which one it was, but it was like just the basis of the parts of, and it was like the actual syncopation, but not the words.
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It's like the melody, and then someone comes in and top lines it.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
That's a crazy song to be on the toilet for.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Okay. I'm, I'm an Ableton user. Can you explain for an Ableton user?
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Do you find that like tempo really impacts a song?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Do you, so last time we talked about like how you make like different food for different artists. Yeah. What is like, do you find that like certain artists like different food? Like do you make a specific food for?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
I am a big, my mom makes this really incredible chocolate chip pumpkin bread.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Made by my mom specifically, yeah.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
You're a very like- very personable kind of like person just like personable kind of person yeah um the the the other two songs how much time do we have left to do stuff so i know we have until 11 so 30 more minutes so then what do we who do we we have blah blah blah yeah we have edge here and divide also i mean you just have like so many so these were the songs that i was given but i mean like
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
You're, I mean, I'm fine to go over any of them.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
That is crazy. I heard you say that.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Are you able to talk about the songs?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
That's insane. First of all, I saw, I don't know if you said that in, no, I don't think I've ever really like dug into it. You guys wrote five number ones for other artists. I think so.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Incredible, by the way.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
This was through a voice note that him recording?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
You won't even know what this is yet. Watch.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Let me see if I even have this on.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
I heard Ed say that he doesn't even remember writing that song. I remember he said that he got a text from Diplo that was like, or like from you or him. And like, we're thinking about playing this song out. And he's like, I don't even remember what that was.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
So it's like you have these moments
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
with julia yeah yeah yeah we made that was all made during that album like we made i think we have i think we have five that's the day y'all wrote dive too yeah that was the day we wrote that i know it's crazy it's so crazy i have a dumb question yes what okay you have like east side 1.0 4k 4j yeah what's your organization process like and then what does that mean
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
that you do that as well, right? You're able to listen to someone and come up with an idea in real time.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
We can always take this out if this is not something that you want to leave in. But for Julia, Julia was like one of the first interviews I ever had. Told me the story of Sorry. She told me that the same day that Sorry hit number one, they wrote the song. But Same Old Love also went number one on radio the same day.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
And she was saying that. But then she talked about like all these artists who wanted it. And there's only one that's leaked onto... YouTube by another artist.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Charlie XCX. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was the person who helped co-write Same Old Love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is crazy to think about. Was there something about that demo and that song that everyone wanted issues from? It was just like...
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Watch, I don't even know when it comes. Hold up, oh yeah.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Yeah, it's, I feel like we live in such a, like an artist dominated part now versus how it was back in the day, which is amazing.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
And you're excited to work with all of them?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Is there anything else you want to ask me before we wrap up?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
When you said that earlier about animals, by the way, taking eight years, I saw Timbaland said pony.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
He held on to that song for eight years.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Y'all have that in common. That's insane. So earlier when you were talking about like making a song with somebody, you go through the process of like connecting with. So, okay, here's what it sounds like actually is happening. You have a conversation with the actual artist. They are telling their story. You guys are like forming an actual genuine connection.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
You guys have an actual genuine conversation. And it sounds like whatever you're talking about oftentimes becomes the song. Yeah, of course. Always. Do they... Okay, so I was in a session with somebody and I tried this process.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
We did this whole thing because like Tranter told me about this too with other things like that. And they wanted to stop writing because they felt it became too real. Yeah, stuff like that happens.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Wow. So, okay. Going back to what we said at the beginning with this goal of like helping the next musical creatives, a lot of people who are watching right now, probably probably are, you know, making music, want to be songwriters, want to be producers, want to be artists.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
I think it's really cool because, I mean, this has never really been done before, like to a certain extent, but not to this level. So first of all, thank you so much for letting us go behind the wall and showing the demos of the songs.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
What is your advice to anyone out there who wants to, one, start making music or wants to start making music their full-time thing?
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
For all the moms out there that are watching this right now.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
When I started the series, it was to shine a light on the people and stories behind music, but it was also to inspire every underdog to go for. I used to work, told you this last time, I used to work at a call center before that, like graduated without a job, wanted to do music, wanted to create videos, wanted to do interviews, wanted to do all these things. I made a vision board.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Put you, Tedder, Williams, John Williams, Hans Zimmer, so many, Chris Martin, so many people I wanted to talk to, collaborate with, meet. And I put it on the wall. I started making videos like crazy every single day with my shitty little iPhone and recording my 2015 MacBook Pro. And then after six years, and actually yesterday, I started to tear up, like tears of joy, like about this specifically.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Because I couldn't believe that something like this was able to happen something that like this to me like has always been a dream so the fact that i'm able to do this like for a living is incredible it's crazy and you like i think i think over time a lot of people have You're going to get like a million no's, but all you need is like that one person to believe in you.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
And luckily I had like five of my first interviews, people who like are some of my musical heroes, like Julia, like Tranner, like Tedder, like you. So I just wanted to say thank you again for doing this. Thank you. Thanks for letting us go behind the wall once more. We did it. We went behind the wall. To see the incredible demos of the songs. What's this? You always give me a little thing.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
This is something people can see how music is created. I think it's going to drive a lot of people to be like, wow, look, maybe I can do it too. Aw, you're so good at this. Me and Ed Sheeran. You just wrote five number ones for other artists. Yeah. Are you able to talk about the songs? Yeah.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Because you're just the king. You're just a legend. And I appreciate you every single time.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
And this is probably going to drop around the time of your new project.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
Oh my gosh. Hi. Here we are again with the one and only, one of my musical heroes, Benny Blanco. Where am I supposed to look? There's so many cameras.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
It was like Jagger was the song you were trying to make as your idea.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
So this one's on me, this one's on you, this one's on there, and this one's on us.
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Benny Blanco Breaks Down His Demos - Behind the Wall (Ep. 16)
And we're back. Benny. It is such an honor to see you again.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Is it true that you have a Pokemon theme song ringtone?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Yes. Gotta get that car, pick it up. phone is ringing and jason page is singing pick it up oh is it your best friend or your mom's calling again pick it up gotta get that a call for you what the hell are you gonna do answer it or put it on mute pick it up gotta get that call yeah very silly i love it be a good thing for people to do
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I hear you're also creating, I don't know if you already have, but creating a 25th anniversary remix of the song?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I was going to say, I don't know if you could compare this to anything else, but Bohemian Rhapsody is probably one of the closest.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
It comes out in 1998. When's the next time do you revisit the song? I revisit it in 2012. Actually, I revisited it right before then. Because there was a viral video with Smosh.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
It's not just all those songs, but I was looking into it. We also got Domino's. Yeah. Domino's Pizza delivers. You also were a part and recording of, I believe it's the 30th anniversary.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Is that the first time you heard yourself on the radio?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
How involved are you with Pokemon from 1998 up until now?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
So everything from 2016 on was not with Pokemon itself, but with Pokemon as like a community.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Pokemon Go was massive.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
How does it feel that this community is kind of giving you this platform to be able to, you know, push the boundary of what's possible?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
You created a fake jingle tape and you knocked on doors and that led to this? That's one of the craziest stories I've ever heard.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
incredible and now 25 years later they are kind of putting an ending or a wrap-up towards ash and pikachu's story is there anything you're planning on doing for for that i'm just investing more in the pokemon ecosystem ash and pikachu might be over for a minute but uh pokemon certainly isn't and the theme song certainly isn't and i expect
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I think it's very difficult nowadays to take something creative that you love and turn it into something that can sustain yourself financially, creatively, personally, professionally. Is there any advice you have for someone who wants to get inside of music or creative or anything like that?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Which by the way, is one of my favorite stories. The fact that you, the way that this happened was you created a fake jingle tape and you knocked on doors to give them the jingle tape, and that led to this? Correct. That's one of the craziest stories I've ever heard. You created your own success.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
You know, that was so good.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And was that the main way that... Jingle house session singers get paid in a sense.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
and was there a big push to kind of benefit the the session singers the writers and people now because it seems like back in the day there was less willingness to give residuals for jingles and for no back in the back in the day you you got there was more residuals really mostly residuals because you could only put your your your commercial out on a major platform okay
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Is there anything that you want to promote or push for?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
But you know, one of my goals is to get like the full behind the scenes stories of the Pokemon theme song. So thank you so much for being a part of this.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And this is a thank you for you. What? The air tag didn't come in time. But early on, we had this thing called what's in the bag.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
It will be coming, and I will get it for you.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And you can read that on your own time.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And we're out. Can you call it out?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Incredible. Pretty cool. But there's one song in particular that, you know. brought you to this point, and that's the Pokemon theme song.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I want to know the story of what led you to that, and then I want to know, how did you end up singing the Pokemon theme song?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
That's right there.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Did you just drop them off in a CD form?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I'm on the road to Viridian City.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
is the man, the myth, the legend, the man who's been heard by almost everyone who has ever heard or ever watched a show, probably everyone in the world, at least in the United States, in Japan, across the world, Jason Page. The voice of a generation. I'm so excited to be here talking to you because your voice has just been such a huge part of our childhood, our adulthood, and our life.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I talked to one of the bands who did more of the recent one. Oh, cool. Echo Smith. They have the song Cool Kids. Cool Kids. Is it good? I still need to listen to it. Because yours is in my head at all times. It's stuck in there. I want to go back real quick because one of the goals I have is to try to tell the stories and like behind the scenes of the songs that really connected with us.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
So talking to all these people, we're trying to go back and put everyone in the mind of what it was like to be in these sessions and what happened and kind of go into more detail. Tell me about you walking into the first session and what happened.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And the original tag was... Catch him if you can!
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And the original tag was… Was it called a jingle at that time or was it called a theme song?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Just like Legomania.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Legomania. Subway eat fresh.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
So they have that song and Catch Him If You Can. But they come back to you later to change it?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And improvise a whole bunch of... Gotta catch em all! Gotta catch em all! Gotta catch em all! Gotta catch em all! Gotta catch em all!
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
First of all, thank you so much for being a part of it. Thank you, sir, for being here. For anyone out there who may not know who you are, what are some of the projects and songs that people would know you from? Most notable.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I love it. Yeah. Working with those guys, did they have any notes for you at the time to change certain things? Did you come in and did you like do any random like, yeah, like any?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
I. Would that lead to publishing?
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
Music is everywhere. Music is everywhere.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
When you get nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea, Pepto-Max. Subway, eat fresh. I see a little silhouette of a can. Mountain Dew, Mountain Dew, time to do the slam dunk.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
This song, Pokemon theme song, Gotta Catch Em All, one of the most famous songs ever. And I was doing some research on this because this is actually really cool. there are over 1,233 episodes of Pokemon. There have been over 24 different Pokemon theme songs.
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Jason Paige: The Original Voice of Pokémon - Behind the Wall (Ep. 15)
And this Pokemon theme song, I looked this up, now don't officially quote me on this, but online it said, was only used in 79 episodes of the anime. Which is insane for that many episodes, this theme song to just live in the hearts of so many people. What does that mean to you as a singer after all these years? That's the earworm.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Was hast du gemacht, um dich zu differenzieren, um zu sagen, ich liebe die Art, wie du lachst, eine Song, die ich geschrieben habe, was werde ich jetzt tun?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Und es sah so aus, als ob die Leute, die Teil der Song waren, auch sehr unterstützend davon waren, zu sagen, dass du die Person warst, die es auch geschrieben hat. Ja, alle waren wirklich cool. Das ganze Team ist großartig. Ja, es ist wirklich interessant, weil auch Eminem und du haben so viele verschiedene Songs zusammen gemacht. Es sieht so aus, als wären es jetzt 15 bis 20.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ja, ich habe die Zahl verloren.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Um so lange einen Partner zu haben, musst du wirklich miteinander verstehen, musikalisch, kreativ. Wie sieht die Beziehung zwischen dir und Eminem aus, wenn ihr in der Studio zusammen seid, Musik zu machen?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Du siehst aus wie die Art von Person, die sehr selbst ist.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Wenn du mit Em arbeitest, ermutigt er dich auch, dich selbst zu sein? Versus andere Künstler, die dich in eine Box legen oder so? Er hat mich immer sehr unterstützt, was ich tue. Er hat nie versucht, es zu verändern.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Es ist fast ein Billion Streams. Ja. Das ist verrückt.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Würdest du sagen, dass du als Skylar Grey und du als Holly zwei verschiedene Leute bist?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Liebst du einen über den anderen?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Was hat dich dazu gebracht, Skylar Grey zu wählen?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Aber das sind ein paar der Hits, glaube ich. Unglaublich. Du hast gesagt, dass du Wörterblock bekommst.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Kommt das oft noch? Was machst du, wenn du Wörter blockierst? Hast du Tricks oder Tipps?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
If you're a full-time artist, producer, creative, you're probably always on the move. And I completely understand. Because I'm always traveling to do interviews. And I'm constantly living at airports, Airbnbs and hotels. And I always gotta use the same annoying public Wi-Fi. Where all my information is free for anyone to grab. Well, four years ago, I was so tired of this.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich habe einiges über VPNs recherchiert. Und ich habe meinen Lieblings-VPN, NordVPN, gefunden. Egal, wo ich bin, es funktioniert auf allen Geräten und ich kann bis zu 10 Geräte verbinden, was für mich toll ist, weil ich halb mein Leben auf der Internetseite ständig lebe.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Und außerdem lässt NordVPN deine Location zu jedem von 118 verschiedenen Ländern verändern, was mir viel geholfen hat, als ich im letzten Jahr den Prison Break wiedergucken wollte, als er nirgendwo sonst nicht vorhanden war. Aber ich könnte es auf einen anderen Streaming-Service bekommen, wenn ich meine Location in den USA verändere. This is actually true. This actually happened.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
It even has a feature that protects you from threats. When you're browsing the internet and a sketchy website comes up or all these annoying things that you have to deal with that you don't even realize is there, NordVPN works in the background to block malware phishing schemes. Plus, it's crazy fast and probably the best VPN I've ever used.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
And honestly, I only want to work with brands that I truly believe in and NordVPN is one of them. So if you want to try it for yourself, go to nordvpn.com slash wall to get a big discount on a two-year plan plus four months free. And there's zero risk because it comes with a 30-day money-back guarantee. So head to the description, nordvpn.com slash wall to try it out today.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
And now let's go behind the wall once again. So you being in Oregon, getting sent the Love The Way You Lie Beat. What was your process? Do you remember like your process to write that song? Yeah. Tell me how it came about.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Hast du die Lieder vorher geschrieben oder ist es nur die Melodie?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Like I blacked out. You said earlier that you never think your songs are going to be hits, but there was something that was like, I don't need to mess with this anymore. How did you know not to continue working on that song? Was it just like, I can't do anything more to this, I'm just going to send it over and that's it?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Kommst du am selben Tag zurück? Oder bist du immer glücklich? Nein.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Es ist jetzt so eine so ikonische Phrase geworden.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Hast du es jetzt in deinem Leben bezeichnet, was du gemeint hast?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Was meinst du, was es bedeutet?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Du hast also diesen Song, Love The Way You Lie, den du ein Monat später ausgeliefert hast. Es geht zum Nr. 1, was verrückt ist. Du fängst an, dich wieder zu bezeichnen, wie Skylar Grey ist. What was the next thought? Was it to stay in Oregon? Was it to move to LA again? What was like your next move at that point that you decided you were going to do in the story?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Was that a good feeling, like after
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich weiß, aber... Und vor dem... Ich habe gesprochen über...
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
I believe Ed Sheeran had this statement that he said, if he starts a song, he has to finish it. Do you believe in that concept? Or is it like, if I'm not feeling this, I just want to put this down?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
But you eventually go with Interscope.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Did you put out I Need a Doctor independently too?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
I mean, I don't... That song is crazy too.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
So it was Love the Way You Lie, then I Need a Doctor came next.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Es ist 14 Jahre her, seit dem Lied Love The Way You Lie.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Das ist verrückt. Ich liebe das Lied. Ich liebe Love The Way You Lie.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Das ist einer der wenigen Lieder, für die ich eigentlich die Versen kenne. Und ich kenne nicht oft Rap-Versen. Aber ich kenne immer die Hooks. Shoutout Hooks. Hooks sind großartig. Was hat dich dazu gebracht, Hooks zu schreiben?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
In a notebook? In a notebook?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Und dann gehst du weiter zu schreiben und zu singen. Ich brauche einen Arzt mit Eminem und Dr. Dre. Wie kam das Lied dazu?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
War das nervig? Ja, sehr. Wie war es, mit ihnen zusammenzuarbeiten? Hast du vorher etwas vorbereitet?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Also du hast viele erfolgreiche Lieder gehabt, aber wie viele Lieder denkst du, dass du geschrieben hast, bis du deinen ersten Hits bekommen hast?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Und dann war dein erstes Vorrecht, als Skylar Grey das Lied gesungen hat.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Wir haben vorhin über Nerven gesprochen, bevor wir gesungen haben. Wie war das, bevor das gesungen hat?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Wie oft machst du Vocal Takes von Songs?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Für Love The Way You Lie, hast du das direkt in den Computer-Microfon gemacht?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Aber GarageBand war was, was dir komfortabel war? GarageBand war einfach mein Schriftstück.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Bis zum nächsten Mal. Tschüss. Vielen Dank. Es ist mir ein Vergnügen, Leute wie Ryan Tedder zu interviewen, die mir eine der größten Tipps gegeben haben, die mir auf meinem eigenen Weg geholfen haben. Leute wie Benny Blanco, die meine ganze Perspektive sechs Jahre nach dem Machen von Musik verändert haben.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Leute wie Marshmello, die mir erzählt haben, dass so lange es dir gut klingt, es egal ist, was andere denken. Das ist das, was wir hier für Behind the Wall für Foster suchen. Wenn das so klingt wie du, dann schau es dir in der Beschreibung unten an und ich hoffe, dass ich dich dort sehen kann. Und jetzt gehen wir zurück zu Skylar Grey. Du hast vorhin die Song Coming Home erwähnt. Wie kam das her?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Is that what people were saying to you? Yeah. I need my Love the Way You Lie.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ja. Wie lange bist du in der Kabine in Oregon geblieben, nach dem Erfolg von Love The Way You Lie? Nicht lange.
Behind The Wall
Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ja, du weißt, so viele Leute in der Musikindustrie sind in L.A., sie fühlen sich in L.A. zu müssen. Du warst einer der... Ja, ich bin ziemlich schnell danach weggegangen.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Yet Love The Way You Lie war, glaube ich, einer der ersten Songs, mit dem ich mich als Kind wirklich verbunden habe, es auf der Radio zu hören. Erzähl mir, wie diese Song passiert ist. Ich weiß, dass es so viel Geschichte dazu gibt, weil diese Song selbst eine meiner Lieblingsstörungen in der Musik ist.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Denkst du, dass du... Ich meine, du bist es klar, aber denkst du, dass jeder in dieser Industrie erfolgreich sein kann, ohne in L.A. zu sein? Absolut.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Was ist deine Suggestion, um erfolgreich zu sein, ohne in L.A. zu sein?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Es scheint, dass das Internet das Spiel für Musik-Marketing verändert hat. Es hat.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Du hast dich auch sehr viel dazu eingelassen, jetzt, als ich mehr über deine Geschichte recherchiert habe, Produktion zu machen und Beats zu machen und so. Ja, ich mag das nicht. Warum? Aber du hast es in der Vergangenheit gemacht. Ja, also.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Um da hinzukommen, müssen wir vielleicht mit der vorherigen Geschichte beginnen, wie man in die Musik gekommen ist und so weiter, und dann endlich dazu kommen.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Hast du auch mal die Zeit gehabt, in der du für andere Künstler produziert hast?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Das ist lustig. Ja. Du hattest letztens noch einen Song mit Eminem gedreht, Temporär.
Behind The Wall
Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Erzähl mir über diesen Song. Das klingt wie ein sehr persönlicher Song.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
100 Prozent. Ja. Unglaublich, unglaubliche Geschichte. Ich glaube, ich habe eine ähnliche Sache mit... Projects that I work on where it's like, I don't even know if I can ever do this again or repeat this. So I get where you're coming from. When those moments happen and songs come out, is that a reminder of, no, I can keep doing this? Or is it more just like that self-doubt in the moment?
Behind The Wall
Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Wenn diese Momente kommen, wo du sagst, ich kann das nicht mehr tun, ich kann keine Lieder schreiben. Ja, es scheint, dass das mehrere Male in deiner Geschichte aufgekommen ist. Ja, wie kommst du davon zurück?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Auch mit Writers Block schreibst du immer noch, oder?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Yeah, you have so many gems. You have so many great songs, songs that connected with the world, connected with me. One of those songs is one of the ones you talked about earlier, Macklemore Glorious, even Clarity by Zedd. And early on, I actually made a video about you in 2022. And I was like, everyone needs to go check out Skylar Grey. And then you duetted it and blew up.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich mag deine Geschichten sehr.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich liebe es. Ja, es war super toll zu sehen, dass so viele Leute damit verbunden sind. Und dann der zweite, der zweite, den ich gemacht habe, war über Klarität und wie diese Song passiert und so weiter. Und dann ging du darauf und duettest das auch, was toll zu sehen war. Aber ich würde gerne hören, wie diese Song aus deiner Perspektive aussieht.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Wenn du etwas Spezifisches möchtest, würde ich sagen, dass es so sein würde.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Zedd hat eine der coolsten House-Tours auf YouTube, die ich je gesehen habe. Er scheint ein toller Kerl zu sein. Ich kenne ihn nicht. Ich würde gerne einen Tag mit ihm treffen. Ich erinnere mich an ein Video über The Middle und wie es 14 verschiedene Sänger hatte, bis sie auf Maren Morris gelandet haben, was einfach verrückt ist.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Und dann sind die meisten Demos da, wenn die Leute es mal hören wollen. Das ist cool. Ich wusste das nicht.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ja, einige von den Leuten, die in der Mitte waren, waren wie Bebe Rexha, Demi Lovato, Camila Cabello. Wow. Viele, viele wirklich talentierte Sänger und so weiter. Sie landeten auf einem Landwirt, was verrückt ist. Ich meine, Clarity ist so eine lustige Song. Es ist so eine tolle Song. Und zu hören, die Geschichte ist wirklich cool. In Bezug darauf, als du, du sprichst von Macklemore Glorious.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Du hast es ein wenig erwähnt, aber in Bezug auf diese Lieder, es scheint eine Lieder zu sein, die dir als Künstler sehr geholfen hat, deine Künstlerschaft, deinen Namen ein bisschen mehr herauszufinden.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Und sie machen sogar Top 5 am meisten gestreamt in diesem Moment, und nicht Top 5 am meisten gestreamt. Also sie könnten auch... Ich glaube, sie machen das.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich denke, das wäre eine interessante Sache, weil ich denke, dass Künstler so dargestellt werden können.
Behind The Wall
Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Wenn ein Song viral wird und dann plötzlich... Ja, und das frustriert mich. Du hast vorhin über den Song Glorious und den Gospelsinn gesprochen. Warst du in der gleichen Meinung, als du das Lied Walk on Water geschrieben hast? Nein. Wie kam das?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Oh, okay. Ich wollte sagen, wie kommst du zu diesen Entscheidungen?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Du kannst immer zurückgehen und schauen.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich meine, du hast so viel in deiner Karriere gemacht. Vielleicht ist das es. Ich habe nur zu viele Erinnerungen. Du hast zu viele Gedanken und zu viele Dinge zu tun. Ja. Auch eine der mehrjährigen Sachen ist, dass du, ich weiß nicht, ob es einfach ist, aber du hast neulich eine Song mit Gelly Roll veröffentlicht. Ja. Und mit ihm geschrieben. Ja. Wie war das?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
War das nicht viel Druck, mein Album ein paar Tage zu machen? Ich brauche einen Hut für das.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
So when there's no pressure, is it even more difficult to write songs then?
Behind The Wall
Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Vielleicht ist das ein Teil meines Problems mit dem Writer's Block. Vielleicht muss ich die Zeitung auswählen. Ja, das ist etwas, mit dem ich auch ein Problem habe. Wenn es nur für mich ist und ich keine Zeitung habe, dann stelle ich die Zeitung aus. Versus wenn es so ist. Nein, das muss diese Zeitung auswählen.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
But you've also put out a ton of projects yourself and a ton of things now as an independent artist. Have you set deadlines for yourself in order to make sure that they come out?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Wir müssen es wieder nachschauen und dann sehen. Sag das noch einmal. Hast du dir für dich vorgestellt, mit all deinen eigenen Songs, all deinen eigenen Songs auch, um diese Druck zu erhöhen? Um sicherzustellen, dass sie raus sind und alles?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Es ist wert der Chance. Wenn du andere lieben willst. Es funktioniert für mich oft nicht, aber ich habe es noch nie versucht, mich selbst zu lieben. Ja, es ist wert. Ich werde es versuchen. Ich weiß, wie es geht. Okay. Ich werde es auch machen. In Bezug auf... Als du darüber gesprochen hast, dass du früher mit Walk on Water und Pink interessiert bist in der Song, passiert das oft, wo du sagst,
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
You'll send a song out to an artist, they won't really respond, you'll send it out to others, and then multiple people will want a song? Or is that like a little, doesn't happen as much as one would think? Because there's like multiple stories I've heard from people.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
You've been very successful in music. You've gone through so much in your career. What's a piece of advice you have for anyone out there who wants to become an artist, a songwriter, a producer, wants to get involved as a creative? I think... just being...
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Wer sind deine Influenzen, die dich als Künstlerin inspiriert haben?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ja, es scheint, dass es überall auf der Karte ist. Ich könnte, ich könnte Broadway da drin sehen. Oh, ja.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich kann mich noch nicht erinnern. Was hast du gemacht?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich habe Giv Roche in Les Mis gespielt. Oh, schön.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich war in The Wizard of Oz als The Wizard. Dope. Ich war der Schauspieler in Joseph. Schön. Also sind das keine Übersetzungen. Ich habe Sandy in Griechenland gespielt.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Du hast viel gemacht, insbesondere einen Song für einen der besten Sänger aller Zeiten geschrieben. Celine Dion.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Das ist verrückt. Ja. Das muss unglaublich gewesen sein.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Nein, ihr habt das quasi manifestiert. Ja, komplett. Aus dem Nichts.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Hast du jemals mit ihr getroffen?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
It was the first time you meet her, she comes up to you and she starts singing the song that you wrote for her. Yeah.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
So süß. Wenn ihr jemals mit den Geschichten, Videos, der Mission von Behind the Wall resoniert und uns weiter unterstützen wollt, dann ist dieses Message für euch. Wenn ihr jemals Behind the Wall repen wollt, dann starten wir den Merch für den Publikum. Ich habe diese Serie angefangen, um die Menschen und Geschichten hinter Musik, Filmen und Medien zu zeigen.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Aber es war auch, um die Plattform zu bauen, die ich hatte, als ich als erstes Kreativ war. And my hope with Behind the Wall is to inspire the next generation. And now for the first time ever again, we have launched merch that you can check out. But I've been wearing this merch for years. I wear this hoodie. This is my Behind the Wall interview hoodie.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
This has been the hoodie that's been across from so many stories, from so many incredible artists, songwriters, producers. This is the day one hat. This is the first Behind the Wall merch item that has ever been made. Vor vier Jahren habe ich diese Hatte angefangen. Das war mein Denkmal. Und das ist der Mug, aus dem ich Kaffee getrunken habe, sowie Hot Chocolate am Abend. Wo gehen wir hin?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Hinter der Wand. Und diese Jacket ist mein Lieblingsstück, das ich je gewonnen habe. Ich habe es für einige der wichtigsten Tage meines gesamten Lebens geworfen. Ich habe es für die Marshmallow Interview geworfen. Ich habe es für die Grammys geworfen. Und ich habe es auch geworfen, als eines der größten Träume meines gesamten Lebens wahrgenommen wurde. Und das Video kommt offiziell bald.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Aber zuerst... I wasn't looking to put out just merch. I wanted to create something that means something. Something that says you create things that matter to you. You care about the process. You care about building something real. Whether you make music, art, podcasts or videos and have ever wanted to support what we do here at Behind the Wall, this is the perfect way to do it.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
So please check out Behind the Wall's first ever live merch for you all in the description below. And I can't wait to continue to go Behind the Wall with you all. Du hast dein Katalog immer wieder für Songs gegründet.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Einer der ... Eigentlich, ich glaube, du könntest es eigentlich zwei Songs nennen. Du warst sehr involviert in Venom, also in der Franchise für Venom 2 und dann sogar in dieser jüngsten. Wie kam das alles um?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
How many songs are in the Dropbox folder? Thousands. Wie viel Raum ist das? Ich weiß es nicht.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ja, ich wollte dich hören und es war verrückt. Es gab diese riesigen, riesigen, äh, vokale Teile und so weiter. Willst du, willst du, war das wirklich lustig für dich? Willst du, möchtest du diese Art von Arbeit weitergehen?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Und das war wirklich Spaß. Das erinnert mich darauf, wie viele Dinge du für TV und Film gemacht hast. Was war eines deiner Lieblingsprojekte, die du gearbeitet hast?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Hast du noch einen Song für diesen Film bekommen?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Es sieht so aus, als wäre es schon oft passiert. Ich meine, ich glaube, eine der Fragen, die ich dann habe, ist, du hast es vorhin gesagt, dass du niemals dazu gekommen bist, Songs für andere zu schreiben.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Tatsächlich. Vor vier oder fünf Jahren.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Hatten sie dich erkannt, als du verkauft hast? Nein, nein.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ist dein Prozess anders, wenn du einen Song für dich machst, oder ist es fast das gleiche?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich glaube, es war Paul McCartney, der das gesagt hat. Ich erinnere mich nicht mehr darauf, aber es war Scrambled Eggs. Es war ursprünglich der Traum von dem Song. Gibt es irgendwelche Beispiele von Songs, die aus Träumen kamen? Speziell?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Erinnerst du dich daran? Manchmal. Das ist cool.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Wie organisierst du all dein Songwriting? Mit Noten und Hörnoten?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Produzierst du jetzt alle deine eigenen Songs?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Du fängst meistens mit dem Piano an?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
I love it. You know, Skylar, when I started this series, my main goal was to shine a light on the people and stories behind music, movies and media. And one of the people I really wanted to talk to was you specifically. Oh, thank you. in dem Wunsch der Serie und dem, mit wem ich gesprochen habe.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Eine andere Sache, die mir wirklich wichtig ist, ist es, jeden Unterhund zu inspirieren, dafür zu gehen und deine Geschichte zu hören, von 19 Jahren, zu schreiben, nicht zu schreiben, diesen Song zu singen. Wo bist du? Und dann, weißt du, in einem Kabinett in den Wäldern mit nichts zu machen und eine Song zu schreiben, die alles verändert hat.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Aber dann hat das mehrere Male geschehen und du machst es ständig. Ich fühle mich, als wäre du einer der besten Menschen, mit denen du für diese Serie sprechen kannst. Also glaube ich, meine Frage ist, wenn jemand gerade eine schwierige Zeit in seiner kreativen Reise durchgeht,
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Welche Tipps hast du, um das durchzuführen, oder was sie tun können, für die Menschen, die gerade an Schwierigkeiten sind?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Angetrieben vom Nervenkitzel der Geschwindigkeit und der Kraft des außergewöhnlichen Styles vereint die Capture Collection von Tommy Hilfiger performanceorientiertes Design mit grenzenlosem Selbstbewusstsein. Das ist mehr als nur ein Look, es ist die Uniform für alle, die ihre Träume verwirklichen wollen.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich glaube, um das kurz auszudrücken, du hast gesagt, dass du dich nicht erfolgreich bezeichnest. Ich verstehe, wo du damit herkommst, aber wenn du jemanden siehst und Erfolg siehst, wie sieht Erfolg für dich aus, als was du hast? Ich glaube, das ist...
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Hast du einen Plan, was du dafür tun wirst?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Makes sense. Well, when that happens, we'll all be listening. At least I will be. I'm sure many, many people out there Wenn es um Erfolg und solche Dinge geht, bin ich sehr froh, dass ich dich mit dem Thema Songwriting mitgebracht habe. Ich weiß, wie wichtig deine eigene Musik ist. Was möchtest du jemandem, der das hören sollte, anbieten? Jetzt?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Incredible. Well, amazing. Skylar, it's been such an honor to chat with you.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Und alle, schaut euch alle von Skylers Musik an und schaut definitiv die letzten Kollabs an. Vielen Dank fürs Zuschauen von Behind the Wall. Gibt es noch etwas, was du sagen möchtest?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Das wäre spannend. Wahnsinnig.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
War da eine Unterschiede zwischen dem Lied zu einem Beat und dem, wie du es geschrieben hast? Ich habe es noch nie gemacht.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Was interessant ist, du hast vorhin gesagt, du warst auf Tour und performst mit deiner Mutter. Du hast also sehr jung angefangen, Musik zu machen. Ja. Wusste du immer, dass Musik das sein wird, was du tun wirst? Ja.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich wollte Anästhesiologin werden. Ich verstehe dich total. Und ich wusste nie, warum. Ja. Aber tief unten wusste ich, Musik wäre für mich der Weg. Mit Fort Minor und dem Song, Where'd You Go, hattest du erwartet, dass der Song ein Hit wird? Nein.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Als dieser Song ein Hit wurde, wartest du dir dafür vorbereitet? Nein, überhaupt nicht.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Und dann habe ich die Nummer 4 auf dem Bildschirm gesetzt. Und dann haben die Leute plötzlich diese vorgesehenen Vorstellungen von dir. Aber weißt du, was lustig ist?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Wenn du das schaust, hast du eine gute Chance, Musik auszuladen, du hast bereits Musik ausgeladen oder du kennst jemanden, der Musik auslöst. Und was die meisten Leute nicht wissen, es war fast unmöglich, das damals zu tun. In der Tat, Queen musste ihren Van verkaufen, um ihr erstes Album zu recordieren. Es war unmöglich, Musik damals auszuladen.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Und als ich die erste Musik vor sechs Jahren auslösen wollte, fühlte es sich so kompliziert und teuer an und ich wusste nicht, wo ich anfangen sollte. Nun, das war bis ich DistroKick gefunden habe. Bis zum nächsten Mal. Und jetzt gehen wir zurück zu Skylar Grey. So then you moved to the cabin in the woods and you're saying that you wrote Love The Way You Lie.
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Super gespannt heute, denn wir haben den einzigartigen Skyler Gray. Skyler, ich wollte schon lange mit dir sprechen. Du bist einer der tollsten Songwriter unserer Zeit. Und du hast so viele unglaubliche Songs gearbeitet. Du hast so viele unglaubliche Songs gesungen. Aber für alle, die nicht wissen, wer du bist, was sind die Songs, von denen sie dich kennen?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Mit dieser Erfahrung von »Where'd You Go«, hat es dir später einen Sinn gegeben, als »Love The Way You Lie« herausgekommen ist, zu sagen, ich will jetzt diesen Moment übernehmen. Ich will versuchen, mich als... Weil plötzlich... Habt ihr erwartet, dass »Love The Way You Lie« euer Lied sein wird, oder geht es zu einem anderen Künstler?
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Auch deine Version ist wirklich speziell mit den Versen und dann die zweite Version. Und dann habe ich sogar deine Version gehört. Und dann gibt es einfach eine Menge von Vulnerabilität, die von dir kommt. Danke. Wenn du diesen großen Erfolg mit Love the way you lie hast,
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Skylar Grey: Meet Eminem's Favorite Songwriter (Ep. 21)
Ich bin gerade in einer Situation, in der die Industrie, nicht ich, aber die Industrie und die Leute mehr bewusst und akzeptiert werden von Songwriterinnen und Songwriterinnen und versuchen, sie zu kritisieren. Damals sah es nicht so aus, als gäbe es so viel Druck darauf.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Einer der größten Songwriter, der größte Künstler, jetzt Künstler, Direktor, Philanthropist, er hat so viel gemacht. Aber auch Bonnie, eine der verrücktesten Dinge, die ich je gehört habe. Ich habe mit vielen Leuten gesprochen, die in dieser Industrie ziemlich erfolgreich sind. Aber du hast zehn Nummer eins Hitsong. Ist das richtig?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Das war dein Weg raus? Ja. Die Songs, die du geliefert hast, hat dir das geholfen?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
It's crazy how many artists have been dropped.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ja, für viele Künstler, die Rekordeale bekommen, fühlt es sich so an, als ob der Rekordeal der Preis ist. Aber es gibt so viel mehr, was man nachmachen muss.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Hundert Prozent. Also, du bist jetzt vom Rekord-Deal gedroht, was du wolltest. Was passiert als Nächstes in der Geschichte?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich habe online gesehen, dass du auch... Du hattest auch Vokal für verschiedene Songs, richtig?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Du hast Bruno Mars erwähnt, und eine der Songs, die wirklich standen, die ich nicht wusste, dass das die Sache war. Hast du im Hintergrund oder singst du auf Love Me von Justin Bieber?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Um das für alle in Perspektive zu bringen, das sind die gleichen Anzahl von Nr. 1s wie Stevie Wonder, einer weniger als Taylor Swift, drei weniger als Michael Jackson, mehr als Beyonce, Ariana Grande, Katy Perry, Justin Bieber. Wie fühlt es sich an, durch diese Industrie zu gehen mit 10 Nr. 1 Hits? Wie ist das?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Das ist der größte Song der Welt. Ich liebe diesen Song.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Also, du lernst Lieder zu schreiben, du startest ein Publisher-Deal zu suchen und so weiter. Aber bevor du das machst, kennst du eine sehr wichtige Person, deine Geschichte. Wie hast du Katy Perry kennengelernt?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ja, ja, die wird später spielen.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Wahnsinn. Und ein Fun-Fact, als ich mit Ryan Tetter gesprochen habe, hat er gesagt, als sie nach Coachella gegangen sind, haben sie einen Anruf bekommen, dass sie gedroppt werden. Die gleiche Woche wie Jonas Brothers und Katy Perry. Und ich glaube, das war die dritte Zeit, als sie gedroppt wurde. Also ist es definitiv ein Grund, in dieser Industrie eingedroppt zu werden.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich möchte definitiv darauf eingehen, weil ich glaube, dass es eine der Inspirationen für eine der Songs ist, die ihr später schreibt. Aber erzähl mir über den Anruf und das erste Mal, als sie auf ihr zweites Album eingeladen wurde, welches eines der größten Albums geworden ist.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ja, sprichst du von all den tollen Sachen, die du zusammen geschrieben hast. Ich liebe so viele dieser Songs und ich würde gerne fragen, wie viele von ihnen es gibt.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Also die erste Song, die du mitbringst, ich bin nur mal interessiert, arbeitest du alleine im Studio oder ist jemand mit dir, als du nachschreibst und Dinge zu meiner Seite addierst?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Amazing. One of those people is also Benny Blanco.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Erinnerst du dich an die Art und Weise, wie ihr die Songs geschrieben habt?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
So Bonnie, for anyone who...
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Das ist eine meiner Lieblingssongs.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Erzähl mir, wie war das?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
What were some examples?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
You have ten number one hit songs. Is that correct? That is correct. How did you meet Katy Perry? The one and only Bonnie McKee, everyone. Songwriter, actor, director.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
It gives you like an image right away.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Unglaublich. Nun, ich möchte es gleichzeitig in die Perspektive bringen, weil eine der Dinge, als Kreator, Storyteller, eine der Dinge, die ich immer gerne bringe, wenn Leute mich fragen, oh, ich habe drei Videos gepostet, warum bin ich noch nicht viral geworden? Ich liebe es immer, zu sagen, es hat mich 150 Videos gedauert, bis ich viral geworden bin.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Did you, do you ever have that feeling again when you write songs? Like when you, in that sense?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Besonders in der heutigen Zeit.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
100 Prozent. In Bezug auf die nächste Song. Ist das California Girls oder Last Friday Night? Oder ist es...
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich bin froh, dass sie okay ist. Waren da andere Teile für letzten Freitagabend oder andere alternative Dinge für das?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Wie viele Songs würdest du sagen, es hat gedauert, bis du deinen Quote-unquote ersten großen Hit hattest?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich bin ein großer Fan von ihnen.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Erzähl mir etwas über die Kalifornierinnen.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
And California Girls features Snoop Dogg at the time. I was looking into this because I thought this was so cool. At the time, like Alicia Keys and Jay-Z just had Empire State of Mind, I believe. And I was looking into like interviews you did, Katy did. Something that was big was like, we need a song for California.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ja, ja, ja. War das so eine Idee, dass ihr alle zusammengekommen seid? Wie kamen die Ideen zusammen? Weil es für dich eine große Rolle spielt, ein Musikvideo mit dem Song verbunden zu sein. Warst du auch in diesem Prozess involviert?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Also, um die Songs zu beenden, erzähl mir, gehen wir zurück zu Wide Awake.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Es gibt eine Song, die ihr beide geschrieben habt, die wahrscheinlich Nummer eins sein sollte. Und das ist Katy Perry's Birthday. Ja.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Zurück zu deiner Reise. Ich habe online gelesen, dass du in einer Hip-Hop-Gruppe mit Macklemore warst.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Und es ist interessant, weil dieses Lied im Jahr 2013 herausgekommen ist. Ich habe mich letztens mit Mike Posner getroffen. Er hat ein Lied, Sugar, das beide von Circuit produziert haben. Wenn du sie nach vorne hörst, klingen sie ziemlich ähnlich.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Aber etwas, was ich am selben Zeitpunkt liebe, ist, dass du auch immer versucht hast, sich zu entwickeln. Du versuchst nicht nur, es nicht zu lösen, sondern du versuchst, es noch besser zu machen.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ja, das klingt wie ein sehr wichtiger Song für dich.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Also du hast all den Erfolg mit Katy. Einer der meisten, ich sage es, einer der meisten viralen Songs jemals vor der TikTok-Ära war der, den du geschrieben hast. Tayo Cruz, Dynamite.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Und ich habe auch gesehen, als du American Girl rausgebracht hast, habe ich ein Video gesehen von all diesen Künstlern, die es singen, und er war einer davon.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Weil wir diesen Club rocken werden.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Das ist cool, dass die Botschaft aus einer eher ernsthaften Sache kommt.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Was für mich verrückt ist, ist, wie viele Dinge du auf einmal arbeitest. Du arbeitest mit Katy. Du arbeitest mit jeder Song, die sie mitbringten. Und du hast gesagt, du arbeitest mit Britney Spears gleichzeitig.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Eine der großen Songs davon war »Hold It Against Me«.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Isn't that fun? So you're working on all this stuff at the same time. You're working on any song they bring in. You're working on Katy Perry. You're working on Britney Spears. But you're also at this time, aren't you working on your own music too?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
I can't believe that you wrote Roar and American Girl at the same time.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich will zurückkommen zu Roar. Erzähl mir über den Prozess, American Girl zu schreiben. Ich liebe diesen Song. Ich weiß, dass so viele Leute den Song lieben.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
More specific to you and other people as well. That's great. Thanks. So you're writing other songs for your own project during this time. What happens to that project?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
War das für die Royals?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Nach zehn Jahren ist es endlich rausgekommen. Das ist großartig. Das ist auch eine tolle Geschichte.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Slay, that's right. Something that's kind of disappointing me now is I've been hearing about a lot of record labels putting something in contracts that artists can't re-record their songs.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
And now they are. After 10 years. I'm glad we jumped there. Also, one of the biggest songs ever that you wrote is Roar. Tell me about how you made that song.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Würdest du sagen, dass... sind Grammys immer noch ein Wettbewerb, das viele Künstler und Songwriter in Bezug auf die Industrie anerkennen wollen? Oder ist es immer noch etwas, das heute für Konsumenten sehr prominent ist?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Inspiration. Eines der Dinge, die ich am liebsten von diesem Song fand, war 2014, als wir den Superbowl gesehen haben. Katy Perry ist auf einem riesigen Lion.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Und es gibt auch Kalifornierinnen und Kalifornierinnen-Dancing-Scharken. Wie war es, die Songs, die ihr beide zusammen geschrieben habt, auf so einer riesigen Bühne zu sehen?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Und die Dancing Sharks sind jetzt ein Meme auf TikTok. Das ist so toll zu sehen, dass dieser Moment weitergeht. Ich habe ein Video gesehen, das du gemacht hast, in dem du viele der Songs singst, die du in der Vergangenheit geschrieben hast. Es war ein Medley. Ja. Weißt du, welcher Song aus dem Video am meisten wiedergespielt wird? Nein. Es ist Keshia, Come On.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Wie ist es, diese Song mit Keshia zu machen?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
I also saw that song starting to come back. I think it was a year or two ago on TikTok. And I saw you dance for it too. Oh, no way. Feeling like I'm a schooler. That part. I think it was that part. And so then I remember seeing it being like, wait, I know that song because I heard you sing it. And then I saw it because on YouTube you can go to the most replayed part and see the retention.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Und auf jeden Fall. Es ist so ein riesiger Berg dort. Die Leute spielen das wieder ein.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich denke, die Leute verbinden sich damit. Du hast auch viele Songs geschrieben mit Five Seconds of Summer, Charlie Puth, Avril Lavigne. Sind irgendwelche von diesen Songs wirklich in den Geschichten?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Dann haben wir auch Ava Max und dann Lauren Gray. Und das war mehr wie die, ich würde sagen, mehr wie die neuersten Künstler, die wirklich über die Internetseite gehen. Findest du, dass es zehn Jahre her andere Songwriting ist und dass die Dinge, die du tust, zehn Jahre her anders sind als heute?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich erinnere mich daran. Es scheint, dass es die Trends geworden ist, dass alle sagen, wie viele Streams sie im Jahr für Spotify bekommen haben.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich erinnere mich daran, dass ich niemanden höher als ihn gesehen habe. Sein Stream war sogar heute der größte. Das ist verrückt. Ja, er ist ein Genius.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Erzähl mir, wie du mit den Produzenten gearbeitet hast und wie es war, mit Max Martin vs. Benny Blanco vs. Circuit zu arbeiten.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Warum... Die Grammys sind schon so lange da. Hat sich da etwas geändert, um zu sagen, okay, wir starten das jetzt an? Ich habe auch bemerkt, dass die Grammys den Songwriter zum Haupt-Show und dann als Produzent des Jahres gemacht haben, während der Pre-Show.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Es scheint, dass viele von diesen Wegen, in denen Leute Songs machen, die Melodie freestylen und dann Lyrics drauflegen. Ist das normalerweise der Prozess, wenn man einen Pop-Song macht?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Wunderbar. Einer der Menschen, mit denen ich mich in diesem Interview treffen werde, ist Benny Blanco.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Gibt es etwas, was ich von dir fragen sollte? Oder etwas, über das wir sprechen sollten?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Sie haben es fünf bis sieben Mal wiedergeschrieben. Ich habe das gesehen.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Was sind deine Gedanken auf TikTok und den Einfluss, den es auf die Musikindustrie hat?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Es ist fast so, dass jeder Fan, der ein Video macht, eine Art Radio-Station ist, die entscheidet, was die Leute wollen.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Und das ist so, wie Songwriter meistens bezahlt werden.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
100 Prozent. Songwriter sind die Musikindustrie. Die Leute, die hinter den Szenen sind, sind die Musikindustrie. Ich bin froh, dass sie das verändert haben. Es ist nur ein bisschen schade, dass es so lange gedauert hat, es zu machen.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Was wir jetzt oft sehen, sind viele Songwriter und Künstler, die ihre Katalogs verkaufen. Warum würde ein Songwriter oder ein Künstler ihren Katalog verkaufen wollen?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Also, du hast viel gemacht als Songwriter und Künstler. Du machst jetzt Filme.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Unglaublich. Hast du irgendwelche Tipps für jemanden, der in der Unternehmensindustrie arbeiten möchte?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Wie gehst du von einem Hip-Hop-Grupp mit Macklemore zu einem Rekordeal?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Definitiv. In der Vergangenheit würdest du sagen, dass du den Erfolg deiner höheren Macht gemacht hättest?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Erzähl mir über den Film.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Es klingt, als ob du dich mit vielen Leuten verbunden hättest.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich bin froh, dass du diese Geschichte erzählen konntest.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Also, was hast du gemacht, In the past, the value was based on success. What would you say it is now?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Als ich diese Serie begonnen habe, dachte ich, dass meine Mission darin war, auf die Leute und die Geschichten hinter Musik, Filmen und Medien ein Licht zu werfen. Letztlich habe ich gemerkt, dass das nicht der Fall ist. Es geht darum, jeden Untergang zu inspirieren, dafür zu gehen. Amen. Du, Bonnie,
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Diese Geschichte von diesen Songs von vor zehn Jahren, mit all diesen Leuten zu schreiben und sie jetzt zu veröffentlichen, betrifft diese Mission so gut. Ich möchte also sagen, vielen Dank, dass du ein Teil davon bist, mich dazu zu helfen, deine Geschichte noch weiter zu teilen.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Und wir werden alle hören.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Super, super gespannt darauf, dass du da bist. Danke. Ich möchte dir sagen, danke so sehr, dass du Teil davon bist.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich auch. Es ist schon lange hergekommen, also bin ich froh, dass wir es schaffen konnten.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich denke, viele Leute hören das Wort Rekordeal und die Leute haben eine Art von Definition in ihrer Meinung, was es ist. Was ist eigentlich ein Rekordeal? Wenn ein Künstler einen 2-Millionen-Dollar-Rekordeal bekommt, was bedeutet das eigentlich?
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich denke, viele Künstler müssen sich heute in eine Art und Weise entwickeln.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Das ist verrückt. Ja. Auch eine Sache, die ich jetzt sehe, ich weiß nicht, ob es immer noch so ist, aber ein Jahr, zwei Jahre zuvor, eine der großen Dinge, die sie gemacht haben, war, dass sie nur Songs auf TikTok veröffentlichten, sie haben nicht mal den Künstler veröffentlicht.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Du arbeitest auf diesem Album. Du bist in L.A., vor vielen Jahren. Es kommt endlich raus.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich bin super gespannt, denn wir haben den einzigen und einzigen Bonnie McKee, Leute. Danke, dass ihr mitgebracht habt.
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Ich bin so froh, dass ihr auf Behind the Wall seid. Als ich diese Serie begonnen habe, wollte ich mit euch sprechen. Ihr habt so einen großen Einfluss auf Musik gemacht und weiterhin so einen großen Einfluss auf Musik gemacht. Danke. Für diejenigen, die es nicht wissen, ist Bonnie McKee
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Bonnie McKee: The 2010s Songwriter - Behind the Wall (Ep. 11)
Und du wünschst es. Was passiert dann?