Daniel Whitenack
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2,536 appearances
14 recordings
1 series
first heard May 2026
last heard 10 Sep
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environment, but they're operating in as this embedded thing in such a distributed system of things that yes, they have influence, but they have influence in a similar way to a dependency in a software product, right?
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Yes, they cer a certainly a dependency in a software product has has an impact and should be tracked and might have vulnerabilities with it, et cetera, et cetera.
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But the overall project is is much more important than it than that individual uh uh dependency.
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And that individual dependency could be swapped out for any number of things in in reality.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So maybe a good way to put it for people kind of coming down to this is maybe we should be talking not so much about the open versus closed model gap, but the development of the sort of agentic workforce and and where the value lies.
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Now I do like, I guess to acknowledge where it matters as
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As you did, there are queer cases where open models clearly win.
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I think that in terms of scale economics, when you have really high volume workloads, in in terms of places where you need data or data sovereignty or control or kind of some sort of infrastructure alignment like air gap scenarios.
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There there are places I think where closed models make make more sense and and
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Clearly when, especially where, you know, you don't have some of those infrastructure constraints.
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Maybe it's not a high trust environment in any way.
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Um, they do certainly they are offer pro products, right?
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These are closed products.
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And in the same way that for any other closed product or managed service, you get a high level of reliability.
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You get SLAs, etc., around things that make them highly reliable.
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Right.
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Um, and and there's certainly trade-offs through that, but it's worth worth acknowledging.
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But then I think you look at this really the set of other things that happen in agents, you know, rag and automation and MCP tool calling and agent-to-agent communication and coding code generation, um, all of those things can reasonably be done with a whole host of of models.
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