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Darby Saxbe

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1267 total appearances

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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

Postpartum depression is something we think of as like a mom only phenomenon.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

It can totally emerge in dads.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

There's evidence that new dads have about twice the prevalence of depression as just men in the general population.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

Oh, wow.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

It can be before birth.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

It can be after birth.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

Yeah.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

So it's like we call it postpartum depression, but it's really perinatal.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

It's like across that transition.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

And if you think about it, it's like a lot of the same risk factors that moms experience, like sleep deprivation, increased stress, identity conflict, role confusion, relationship stress, and hormone changes.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

It's like that perfect storm.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

So that's affecting men too.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

Oh my God.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

The moms are going to hate this.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

I talked to a perinatal psychologist and we actually talked about this exact thing.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

She said she's gotten a lot of pushback because she's tried to get postpartum depression in men more recognized.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

And some of the advocacy groups are like, can't moms just have this one thing?

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

Right.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

And she's like, yes, but also if men are struggling, that's not great for mom either.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Darby Saxbe (on Dad Brain)

Yeah, it's important.