Darby Saxbe

Yeah.

I think it's terrifying to a lot of men.

Scary.

It's interesting because if you think about it, men have not been present at childbirth for most of our human history.

Childbirth has been this participatory experience where human women need a lot of help, but it hasn't typically been that the helpers have been men.

And so we are kind of doing this experiment in just this last, like, 150 years, right, where you have males as part of the birthing experience, either as doctors or as fathers.

And stereotypically, men were kept out of— Oh, they would tell you don't go in there.

Yeah.

Totally.

Yeah, in the 50s, if you see the dad is handing out cigars, right, in the waiting room, he meets the baby once it's been washed.

Yeah, and her makeup's on.

Exactly, yeah.

She's brushed her hair.

Seeing birth, I think, really rocks a lot of dads' worlds, right?

It's like both in, I think, really good ways and also in ways that can be hard because it's this powerful experience.

There's nothing like it.

It can be scary for mom.

It can be scary for dad.

Things can go wrong.

Things can also go beautifully well.