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Dario Amodei

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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And so my worry, of course, is about that last phase.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

So I think we're already in our centaur phase for software.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And, you know, I think during that centaur phase, if anything, the demand for software engineers may go up, but the period may be very brief.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And so, you know, I have this concern for entry-level white-collar work, for software engineering work.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

It's it's just going to be a big disruption.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And I think my worry is just that it's all happening so fast.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

People talk about previous disruptions.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

You know, they say, oh, yeah, well, you know, people used to be farmers.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Then we all, you know, worked in industry.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Then we all did knowledge work.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

People adapted.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

That happened over time.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

centuries or decades.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

This is happening over low single-digit numbers of years.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And maybe that's my concern here.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

How do we get people to adapt fast enough?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

I think it's going to be pretty heterogeneous.