Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Dario Amodei

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2714 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

That is what I had in mind when I talked about entry-level white-collar labor and, you know, the bloodbath headlines of, you know, oh, my God, are the entry-level pipelines going to kind of dry up?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And how do we get to the level of the senior partners?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And I think this is actually a good illustration because, you know, particularly if you froze the quality of the technology in place โ€“

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

you know, there are over time ways to adapt to this, right?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

You know, maybe we just need more lawyers who spend their time talking to clients, right?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Maybe lawyers are more like, become more like salespeople or consultants who explain what goes on in the contracts written by AI, you know, help people come to agreement.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Maybe you lean into the human side of it.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

If we had enough time, that would happen.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

But reshaping industries like that takes years or decades, whereas these economic forces driven by AI are going to happen very quickly.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And it's not just they're happening in law, the same thing is happening in consulting and finance and medicine and coding.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And so you have this, it becomes a macroeconomic phenomenon, not something just happening in one industry.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And it's all happening very fast.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And so my worry here is that the normal adaptive mechanisms will be overwhelmed.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And I'm not a doomer.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

The view is we're thinking very hard about how do we strengthen society's adaptive mechanisms to respond to this.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Yeah, that, you know, and I would argue that in many cases we do want to stay in charge, right?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

That that's a choice we want to make, even in some cases when we think the humans on average make kind of worse choices.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Worse, worse decision.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

I mean, you know, again, life critical, safety critical cases.