Dario Amodei

We really want to turn it over.

But there's some sense of, you know, and this could be one of our defenses.

Society can only adapt so fast if it's going to be good.

Another way you could say about it is, you know, like.

Maybe AI itself, if it didn't have to care about us humans, you know, it could just go off to Mars and like build all these automated factories and build its own society and do its own thing.

But that's not the problem we're trying to solve.

We're not trying to solve the problem of, you know, building a Dyson swarm of like artificial robots, you know, on some other planet.

We're trying to build these systems, not so they can conquer the world, but so that they can interface with our society and improve that society.

And there's a maximum rate at which that can happen if we actually want to do it in a human and humane way.

So I think that may be right in the short term.

One of the things is, you know, Anthropic and other companies are building these very large data centers, right?

This has been in the news.

Like, are we building them now?

too big are they using electricity and driving up the prices for you know for local tax so you know there's lots of excitement and lots of concerns about them but one of the things about the data centers is like you need a lot of electricians and you need a lot of construction workers to build them now i should be honest actually data centers are not super labor-intensive jobs to operate we should be honest about that but they are very labor-intensive jobs to construct

And so, you know, we need a lot of electricians.

We need a lot of construction workers.

The same for, you know, various kinds of manufacturing plants.

And, you know, again, as kind of all more and more of the intellectual work is done by AI, what are the compliments to it?

Things that happen in the physical world.

So I think this kind of.