Dario Amodei
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard 12 Jun
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I think I compared it to like if you have a parent who like dies and they like seal a letter that you read when you grow up.
It's a little bit like it's telling you who you should be and what what advice you should follow.
Yeah, this is one of these really hard-to-answer questions, right?
As much as every question you've asked me before this, as devilish a sociotechnical problem as it had been, we at least understand the factual basis of how to answer these questions.
This is something rather different.
We've taken a generally precautionary approach here.
We don't know if the models are conscious.
We're not even sure that we know what it would mean for a model to be conscious or whether a model can be conscious.
But we're open to the idea that it could be.
And so we've taken...
certain measures to you know to to make sure that if we hypothesize that the models did have some morally relevant experience i don't know if i want to use the word conscious that that they do you know that they have a good experience so the first thing we did i think this was you know six months ago or so is we gave the models basically an i quit this job button
um where they can just press the i quit this job button and then they have to stop doing whatever the task is they very infrequently press that button i think it's it's usually around you know sorting through child sexualization material or like you know discussing something with you know a lot of gore blood and guts or something and you know similar to humans the models will just say no i i don't want to i don't want to do this um
Happens happens very rarely.
We're putting a lot of work into this field called interpretability, which is looking inside the brains of the models to try to understand what they're thinking.
And, you know, you find things that are evocative where, you know, the models, their activations that light up in the models that we see as being associated with.
the concept of anxiety or something like that you know that when when characters experience anxiety in the text and then when the model itself is in a situation that a human might associate with anxiety that same anxiety neuron shows up now does that mean the model is experiencing anxiety that doesn't prove that at all but but it but it does indicate it i think to the user right and yeah we would i would have to do an entirely different interview
Yeah, so I think there's a few, we should like separate out a few different things here that we're sort of all trying to achieve at once that are like intention with each other.
There's the question of whether the AIs genuinely have a consciousness, and if so, how do we give them a good experience?
There's a question of the humans who interact with the AI.
And how do we give those humans a good experience?
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