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Dario Amodei

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

You don't have to have the full machine god.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And indeed, there are places where I cast doubt on whether the machine god, you know, would be that much more effective at these things than the 100 million geniuses, right?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

I have this concept called, you know, the diminishing returns to intelligence, which is, you know, there's like, you know, economists talk about, you know, the marginal productivity of land and labor.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

We've never thought about the marginal productivity of intelligence.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

But if I look at some of these problems in biology, like at some level, you just have to interact with the world.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

At some level, you just have to try things.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

At some level, you just have to comply with the laws or change the laws on getting medicines through the regulatory system.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

So there's a finite rate.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

at which these changes can happen.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Now there are some domains, like if you're playing chess or go where, you know, the intelligence ceiling is extremely high, but I think the real world has a lot of limiters.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

So maybe you can go above the genius level, but you know, sometimes I think all this discussion of like, could you use a moon of computation to make an AI God, um, you know, are, are they're a little bit sensationalistic and, and kind of besides the point, even as I think this will be the biggest thing that ever happened to humanity.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

So again, let's keep it on the positive side.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

There'll be plenty we'll get to the negative side.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

But, you know, we're already working with pharma companies.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

We're already working with financial industry companies.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

We're already working with, you know, folks who do manufacturing.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

We're, of course, you know, I think especially known for coding and software engineering.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

So just the raw productivity, the ability to like make stuff and get stuff done.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

That is very powerful.