Darren Dreger

And the idea of having to look at it like we've got to get out from underneath this as opposed to acquiring pieces, I think that's wise.

I don't think people in Vancouver would want to hear that, but I think that's smart.

If you're going to launch into a rebuild and it's going to take you years...

I think you've got to start there.

You've kind of got to get out from that contract and reset your books.

Yeah, no kidding.

You're not trading him twice.

You're not flipping him.

There's no market the second time.

That's for sure.

Yeah.

I wanted to ask both guys, and you can both weigh in, at what point do you see a shoe drop?

And what I mean by this is there's so many teams that are kind of hovering around the playoffs.

Is there going to be a major move?

Because I talk to teams all the time, and it just feels like they're waiting on something, waiting another week to see if they're either in the hunt or out of the hunt and all of that.

Because to me, I'm sure you guys get it, trade chatter –

I feel like teams have three or four in the barrel, but they just haven't pulled the trigger yet.

CJ, would you align with that?

Right.

You look at the two Canadian teams that are pretty comfortably in, Edmonton and Montreal.