Darren Patterson

Like that's not the real world that we live in.

I've been doing this a while.

I've never seen two businesses, even of the same shape or size that operate the same way.

There's so much like universal creativity on how people operate a business.

And so Maya by Make is actually a highly interactive and is designed to very similar to that vibe coding experience where it's not just one shot, it's actually a continual interaction

where it's going to ask you clarifying questions and build alongside you.

So I'm particularly excited about that release coming soon.

That said, I will say, you know, today people, obviously they'll go to Cloud or they'll go to a chat GPT.

They'll even, you know, create a workflow diagram on a napkin and upload it to Cloud and say, create a make scenario for me and have pretty solid success.

That's not quite the experience that we totally aim for.

And so we're working heavily on bringing that to market.

No doubt.

I mean, I often theorize that, look, what I would describe as orchestrating AI, orchestrating agents.

It's the new middle management.

It's no longer the case that, hey, you're doing great.

I'm going to promote you and you can hire some people, but you're doing great.

I'm going to promote you and you can 10x your output.

by creating and managing an army of agents.

Absolutely.

It's a baseline expectation when you come to work now.