Darryl-Lee Prince

and this is across ADHD and ADHD and ASD, is a conglomeration of symptoms that present themselves when these kids have essentially tried to align themselves with normal, and they're trying desperately to fit in, to be normal, and then you can't anymore.

You basically start seeing some really odd and wonderful symptoms.

It's like nobody thinks about it because it's not something that is part of the learning.

It's the same with pathological demand avoidance.

That's not in the DSM.

That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Once you start seeing the research, you go, oh, God, yeah, that makes sense.

And that's where you get to formulation.

It could be this, this, this, this, and this.

And if you put all of these things together, I think it's probably this.

And then you go, all right, well, I've tried all these drugs.

Nothing worked.

I've tried this.

I've tried this.

Why don't we say, look, I think this is burnout.

And this is how we make it better.

We take all the distress away.

We try and help you to feel better about yourself.

And we prop up all the dysregulation, all the sensory overload, all the things.

And we try to put those accommodations in place.