Daryn Kagan

But it was too much not tied down.

Like, where do you live?

Do you live in Atlanta?

Why?

I was living in Atlanta originally because I moved there for CNN.

And I owned a home and it felt like home.

I didn't want to come back to L.A.

Like there was nowhere I could go anywhere and didn't want to go anywhere.

It was changing.

And it was just, like I said, the beginning of... I mean, the idea when we... And I know we started our careers very far apart.

But even when you started, the idea that a journalist could be an entrepreneur...

You might as well own a noodle shop.

I mean, there's just no, you went to work for big corporations and they empowered you and you played by their rules and you made them money and they paid you money.

The idea that you have your own thing like this, like what I have, it's just unheard of.

And, you know, when you came on my podcast and we were talking about this, you talked about how when you were one of the early people to go out and start and create your thing and people told you, are you nuts?

Look, look, you're going to give up all this.

And you said, actually, yes, I am, because this is not what you promised it was going to be to me when I started this.

So if they told me in January and I finally left in September and I launched in November, probably it was spring or summer.

And where the idea came from was, so Yahoo at the time, which was big, had hired, gosh, now I'm forgetting his name.

CNN had a war correspondent and they hired him to go to like every bad place in the world for a year.