Dave Aronberg
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard 16 Sep
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And my belief is that if you want to change the 14th Amendment, pass an amendment to do so, you can't do it through executive order.
And to address yours and Mike's point about the Dred Scott case, Mike is right that the impetus for the 14th Amendment was the Dred Scott decision.
But the text that they wrote, and this addresses your point too, Megan, was intentionally broad.
They didn't write, all former slaves shall be citizens.
What they wrote was,
all persons born or naturalized.
And the 14th Amendment's framers were smart enough to use the word persons, not former slaves.
And so if we only applied constitutional amendments to the specific people they were intended to protect, the 14th Amendment wouldn't protect anyone today.
And so
There's a case on point, the Supreme Court back in the 19th century and that Wong Kim Ark case.
They already addressed this argument.
And by the way, that court back then wasn't a liberal court.
That's the same court around the same time that enacted Plessy versus Ferguson, which is separate but equal.
Well, are you and I'm a little confused by the question, because are you saying that you mean political allegiance?
So if you were you have to say that you're not subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
OK, I understand where you're coming from, Megan.
And the reason that children of foreign diplomats are treated differently is that their parents carry that diplomatic immunity.
They're literally outside the law.
This is different than –
if a child of someone who's undocumented commits a crime.
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