Dave Aronberg
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard 16 Sep
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But it's interesting.
I'm going to try to distill it down because it is confusing.
But here, in plain language, Justice Gray wrote both the Elk and the Wong Kim Archipitians.
So...
So it's interesting that they're quoting him back to him, like, how do you distinguish these two opinions?
And the key is that in the Elk case, the 1898 case, Justice Gray was dealing with a Native American who owed immediate allegiance to a sovereign tribe.
And so that's different.
And that's, I think, the distinction between Elk Wilkins and Wong Kim Ark.
Yeah.
Exactly.
An undocumented immigrant is not a member of a sovereign nation within the United States that has its own treaties and laws.
They are individuals.
Well, you know, when it comes to Mike's argument about Chinese children who come here and that argument was made actually during the debate on this amendment, the 14th Amendment.
There's a senator Cowan who made this debate saying, hey, if you pass this, you're going to now give citizenship.
And the term he used was Chinese and gypsies.
And the Congress passed it anyway.
Yeah, they actually said they said you're going to give citizenship to China, the Chinese and the gypsies.
And yet Congress passed it anyways, because they chose a bright line rule.
So we wouldn't have this kind of debate in the future.
And that's why every court has decided in that way.
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