Dave Damaschek

That's what you would have to do to have a split rookie with intention.

It's the whole point.

Let's just cancel that whole tournament that they conduct for in January and into February then.

If it doesn't really matter, if it's a little sprinkle on top of the good times of the regular season, why don't we just cut to the chase and hold a vote?

around the holidays and decide who we all think is the best instead of actually conducting it.

I don't know if you knew this, Dave.

I think they're side by side.

I think you can try and draw distinctions about Josh Allen's a tick better in January, but they're both in the same boat, which is that they're both tracking to Marino Island.

Marino is one of one.

I know there's Fran Tarkenton and Jim Kelly, but I think we all...

living in the real world, all associate Dan Marino as the guy, the tragic figure in the quarterback league who never got over the hump, who's still in the conversation, one of the five best quarterbacks of all time.

He's about to get some company there on Marino Island, and it's going to be maybe Josh Allen.

and Lamar Jackson.

And by the way, how do we account for the fact that when we just so casually... And I think it comes from this weird place of performative or convenient sort of empathy.

Like, yeah, you can't... Don't take Lamar Jackson to task for not doing the thing that is the entire point of every season that goes on.

And by the way, the other thing is, too, I disagree with his...

adjective influential.

I know you just agreed with it, Mike, that Lamar Jackson is the most influential quarterback and has changed the way people consider quarterbacks.

I don't really think that's true.

Lamar Jackson is a one of one who's really comparable, who changed their approach to quarterbacks and expectations based on what they saw with Lamar Jackson.