Dave Dameshek

And so it's changed quite a bit.

It's really, I mean, the distinction from 1982 to 2002 wasn't that big.

There weren't wholesale changes to the sport, really, like you've gone through.

How different is...

say, your experience with Kenny Pickett through all those seasons versus now Mason Heinschel?

I mean, how different is your allotment of time and how much you have to focus on recruiting guys in here and making sure they stick around once you have them in the fold?

I assume that that's legitimately attends.

And I've not a reflection on Pitt, obviously, specifically wherever you are.

It's like, don't go now.

We need you for next season, which is just not a conversation you were likely having 20 years ago.

It's a big deal when a guy would transfer, right?

I've always thought that I would take, if you gave me a choice for the rest of my life, you're going to be an NFL or a college coach.

I think college appeals to me more except for the recruiting.

I would not want in January and February, especially given the weather in the Northeast, to be like going from living room to living room with strangers.

How weird is that experience?

Or do you not have to do it anymore as much?

Maybe that's the blessing of the NIL stuff is that you're not out on the road the first couple of months after the season ends.

Do they, sir, do people generally put out some food, some finger food, some cheeses, charcuterie perhaps?

What do they do?

Like, hey, I'm recruiting your 18-year-old son, and I want you to know he's going to be in good shape.