Dave Davies

Right, right.

You know, the interesting thing is that for all the contact that Randy Weaver in particular had with these hardcore right-wing Christian identified groups and militias, he never joined any of them, right?

Right.

And he thought that if they're up on a hilltop and well-armed, they could survive the end while these tribulations occur?

It is striking how the Weavers, even though they didn't join these militant groups, had a lot of weapons and everybody in the family learned to use them.

Even 10-year-old Rachel couldn't handle a rifle, right?

So the criminal charge that led to the violence at Ruby Ridge was actually initiated by government agents.

Tell us what happened.

So Randy Weaver sells two sawed-off shotguns.

They were illegally modified to this civilian who was working for the federal government and was wired up to capture the sale on tape, right?

Right.

So he committed a crime.

What happened then?

Right.

So not a heavy-duty crime.

But Randy Weaver didn't show up for trial, which itself was another offense.

He was released on bond.

There was a $10,000 bond, which somehow he understood might end up meaning that if he didn't show up, they would take his land away.

That's actually not the case.

But the instructions were a little confusing.