Dave Davies

Operates far more tournaments now than it used to and generates a whole lot more money.

And the way he's done that is… The bounty meaning what those federations pay to participate?

Right.

When we say clubs, that means these soccer teams that are mostly in Europe, I guess, right?

In South America, right?

But they're private teams.

They're not national teams, right?

And he has been – had a very close relationship with President Trump.

He recently gave him FIFA's first ever Peace Prize, right?

So I suppose those controversies and as well as the high ticket prices are contributing to the fact that hotel reservations are off, right?

Yeah.

The Watergate thing was – it's not water.

FIFA originally said people could bring empty bottles, transparent water bottles in to get them filled at coolers.

Then they reversed themselves and then they reversed the reversal, right?

So now you can bring a water bottle?

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