Dave Davies

I wanted to return to a moment with Pope Paul VI, who was the one after John XXIII. In the 60s and 70s, he was the pope, and he had affirmed the church's ban on birth control despite the recommendation of a commission that had been established, which favored relaxing the rules.

I wanted to return to a moment with Pope Paul VI, who was the one after John XXIII. In the 60s and 70s, he was the pope, and he had affirmed the church's ban on birth control despite the recommendation of a commission that had been established, which favored relaxing the rules.

And this happened in the late 60s when there were a lot of sweeping cultural changes including the sexual revolution, which certainly troubled church conservatives. And in 1975, Pope Paul was so angry about the criticism he received about the birth control issue and the rejection of his views.

And this happened in the late 60s when there were a lot of sweeping cultural changes including the sexual revolution, which certainly troubled church conservatives. And in 1975, Pope Paul was so angry about the criticism he received about the birth control issue and the rejection of his views.

And this happened in the late 60s when there were a lot of sweeping cultural changes including the sexual revolution, which certainly troubled church conservatives. And in 1975, Pope Paul was so angry about the criticism he received about the birth control issue and the rejection of his views.

that he directed the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, that's a unit within the Vatican, to release a long declaration on sexual morality, which had hardened condemnations of extramarital sex, masturbation even, homosexuality. That really prompted some revelations in the press about Paul's personal life. What happened?

that he directed the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, that's a unit within the Vatican, to release a long declaration on sexual morality, which had hardened condemnations of extramarital sex, masturbation even, homosexuality. That really prompted some revelations in the press about Paul's personal life. What happened?

that he directed the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, that's a unit within the Vatican, to release a long declaration on sexual morality, which had hardened condemnations of extramarital sex, masturbation even, homosexuality. That really prompted some revelations in the press about Paul's personal life. What happened?

And you note that this raised the question among some whether the church's failure to address sexual abuse among the clergy was influenced at least in part by the fact that high-ranking church officials themselves had their own closely guarded sexual secrets. Yes.

And you note that this raised the question among some whether the church's failure to address sexual abuse among the clergy was influenced at least in part by the fact that high-ranking church officials themselves had their own closely guarded sexual secrets. Yes.

And you note that this raised the question among some whether the church's failure to address sexual abuse among the clergy was influenced at least in part by the fact that high-ranking church officials themselves had their own closely guarded sexual secrets. Yes.

You note that there have been some studies by former clergy on this issue who have some professional training in mental health. I mean there was a Father Kennedy who was a Loyola psychologist and then later a former priest and monk, Richard Seip, who became a psychotherapist and treated clergymen. Both of them kind of mused upon what the celibacy vow that is imposed on clergy was.

You note that there have been some studies by former clergy on this issue who have some professional training in mental health. I mean there was a Father Kennedy who was a Loyola psychologist and then later a former priest and monk, Richard Seip, who became a psychotherapist and treated clergymen. Both of them kind of mused upon what the celibacy vow that is imposed on clergy was.

You note that there have been some studies by former clergy on this issue who have some professional training in mental health. I mean there was a Father Kennedy who was a Loyola psychologist and then later a former priest and monk, Richard Seip, who became a psychotherapist and treated clergymen. Both of them kind of mused upon what the celibacy vow that is imposed on clergy was.

the psychological effect that it had that might have played a role in this abuse scandal? What did they conclude?

the psychological effect that it had that might have played a role in this abuse scandal? What did they conclude?

the psychological effect that it had that might have played a role in this abuse scandal? What did they conclude?

You know, the scandal of sexual abuse in the church has been widely reported. And I think it's fair to say from a reading of your book that none of the popes that you write about confronted this terrible problem honestly and forcefully, all of them in varying degrees protected predators. In your research, did you come across any documents on this that really surprised you?

You know, the scandal of sexual abuse in the church has been widely reported. And I think it's fair to say from a reading of your book that none of the popes that you write about confronted this terrible problem honestly and forcefully, all of them in varying degrees protected predators. In your research, did you come across any documents on this that really surprised you?

You know, the scandal of sexual abuse in the church has been widely reported. And I think it's fair to say from a reading of your book that none of the popes that you write about confronted this terrible problem honestly and forcefully, all of them in varying degrees protected predators. In your research, did you come across any documents on this that really surprised you?