Dave Eggers

Yeah, he's a great guy.

Yeah, I think it depends on...

I've written in every book, I guess.

Pencil or pen?

It doesn't matter.

They're teaching tools for me.

So if I want to remember how to do something, like how to do a really great character sketch in a short space, then I'll go to...

somebody who I know does that well.

And I'll go back to that book or I'll tear out the page or anything to keep it next to me, have a stack of certain books near me on the boat.

If I want to have them on hand, they're all beat up.

They're all got saltwater and mildew and everything.

And I do have a separate collection of like collectible books and plastic and stuff, but I buy a lot of like dollar or $2 used books so that I can draw and write on them and

and tear them up because I always think I'm going to be able to find that passage or I'll look at it, but I'm like, nah, I got to tear this out and just have it next to me.

Write notes on the back of it.

Do you write on the boat?

Yeah, that's my office.

So during COVID, we never had internet at home, so I can't write near the internet.

So I had to get an office outside the house.

Explain you can't write near the internet.

Well, like I have a flip phone, right?