Dave Fleming
speaker
69 appearances
1 recordings
1 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard Nov 2024
Dave Fleming’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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No, this is a thorough search. I look to my right, and I just happen to see the open closet where they keep all the guns, hundreds of guns and shotguns, in case something happens at the prison. You make it through that. You're still not in the prison yet. You come out, and you are now between the fences.
And it's perfectly aligned with the gun towers because they need to have a clean shot if someone makes it through that fence.
It's the people inside screaming at each other, yelling everything under the sun. That's really when you're like, man, is it too late to turn back? And then the strangest thing happened. The room that they took us to to interview Charles is where families go. And so you turn after this giant steel door closes and you're like, what am I doing?
You turn, you go into the room and the walls are painted with cartoon characters. And I'm staring at Cookie Monster, My Little Pony, SpongeBob SquarePants. And I'm like, wow, we really are down a rabbit hole.
I'm starting to get into my thoughts, right? And it's starting to spiral. And then Charles comes in.
Okay, okay. And we sort of make eye contact. We kind of say hello through the glass.
Okay. You guys want me to let the phones hang or leave them here? And Charles kind of saves me because it's clear that he wants to talk football. I looked at the Cowboys' schedule before we came over here, and I noticed, okay, they play the Texans. Is it like week? I think it's 11. Okay.
Week 11. Yes. Charles grew up big. You can tell that from the clips that we're watching. Was an offensive and defensive lineman in middle school. And the first thing he wants to talk about is the Cowboys-Texans game on Monday night, of course.
His cell, smaller than this studio, 9 by 12? It's probably...
Some of the death row cells are actually as small as 60 square feet, and they are in there 23 hours a day without exception.
He described the two vertical windows, thin windows with the mesh screen on those grates, those vertical grates at the front of his cell. And basically they have to go there and sort of put an eye between the grate to see the community television that, by the way, just showed up a couple of years ago.
The fact that it's his legal papers that he's using to help him with his sports fandom, it's perfect. It is quaint in a way.
I don't want to overstep or anything like that, but basically my question was, Trash talk could be dangerous, can it? In a prison? I mean, it's like, I'm not going to trash talk anybody. And he had a really interesting explanation for that.
Is that scary? I mean, you're talking trash with, you could be talking trash with some pretty bad dudes, right?
Right? It was kind of like, it was like he's, it's just classic Cowboys fan. Almost more so, almost more pure.
It's kind of like what we were just talking about. It's like every other fan, right? There's a whole ritual.
And is that something you guys are like, okay, what are we going to eat? Yes. Okay.
Okay.
He's as proud of the food and the tailgate, right, as any Georgia Bulldog fan, as any LSU tailgater.
Right. That's an incredible thing to be on death row. And it's like, oh, my God, there's no difference.
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