Dave Hughes

And I think that's a time also to sort of just keep it in check a little bit.

And one of the great ways to do that is

is to be quick to look for what's great in others that are involved in the situation.

So a really good example I can think of that came to my strata was actually of a former guest we've had here was Kate Campbell, the Olympic swimmer who was disappointed in Tokyo with individual performances.

But in the interviews afterwards, just all she did was praise her opponents.

And she praised her teammates and that's all she did.

And so I think that in any situation that is about you, you're getting attention.

Praising the people around you is a really effective way of managing ego.

Number four, it might sound a bit morbid, so I've got two versions of it.

A morbid version and not so morbid version.

But number four, remembering that we're all going to die.

or Guy Montgomery's version of the comedian who's also sort of been on the podcast.

Little Boy Christmas.

Oh, yes.

Guy always says no one's actually listening.

Like no one's actually willing to pay attention.

When you get nervous about your talk or your performance or-

There's no, it's like, we are so quick to think that everyone's paying attention to us and everything's about us and everyone cares and everyone, but no one's really, everyone's fighting their own battles.

But I had an example today, which was, I spent this morning with my kids, well, two of the kids, the two younger kids.

So, and we had a lovely morning together today and we went to the park and