Dave Jackson

It goes all the way up to the height of the crossbar.

And much like at the blue line, when they're determining offsides, did that skate break the plane of the leading edge?

Well, the goaltender, if he breaks that plane of the crease, meaning he might have his feet in the blue paint, but his stance, he's leaning forward, his blocker, his glove, his head might be outside the blue paint.

Just because your feet are in the paint doesn't mean your whole body is in the crease.

So if you're breaking the plane of that crease,

Yeah, exactly.

So if you're breaking the plane of that crease and you're out considered in the white paint and the attacking player makes incidental contact with you, that's the key.

So if the goalie's glove is breaking that plane in the white and I intentionally go over and slash his glove, that's always going to be a penalty.

That is a great example.

That is a great example.

Panthers fans lost their minds.

What are we doing here?

And I watched that one time.

I had to watch it one time, and I said, good goal.

Good goal.

Because what's happening there is the goaltender is leaving the safety of his crease.

He's putting his glove out there.

And that space is as much belonging to the Buffalo player as it is to him.

If he had gone over before that shot was taken and slashed the goalie's glove, that would be a penalty.

In this case, he's reaching for the puck, trying to deflect it.