Dave Krupa
Appearances
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
She says, I have Liz tied up in the trunk of the car. You need to call her right now and tell her you hate her. She's a whore. Otherwise, I'm going to kill her.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
What do you do when somebody invades every space of your life? This man's life is about to become terrifying.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
They were bad, and they were just all about how bad of a person I am.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
And Carrie is contacting Liz directly too. Liz gets into contact with me and says that now Carrie is harassing her via text and email.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
Upon pulling into the garage, she found that someone had written, pour from Dave, on the inside of her garage in spray paint.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
The police show up at my work looking for me. and they didn't look very friendly. I was the last known person, or at least the assumed last person to see her. As soon as they're looking at me with those police van eyes, that got me pretty rattled. You know, I pulled out my phone and said, no, she's lost her mind, she's going crazy, she's harassing me.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
Their tone certainly changed from an accusatory one to, oh, okay, we've seen this before.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
I would regularly receive 60-plus texts a day, 100 emails a day. It was not uncommon. And as far as phone calls, hundreds of hundreds. And I had changed phone numbers so many times, it was ridiculous.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
And she seems to be everywhere. On one specific occasion, I was sitting in my Lazy Boy with my feet up, watching TV, trying to relax, and it's nighttime, and I get a text saying, I see you, you're sitting in your chair with your feet propped up, wearing a blue shirt, and those things were true.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
So I took a picture of the license plate, sent it to the police.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
That was what we would say, Crazy Cherry. Oh, Crazy Cherry this. Oh, I got another email from Crazy Cherry.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
It was actually extremely common for us to be hanging out and both of our phones would start blowing up with text messages and emails from Carrie.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
I get an email, and it's a picture of what looks like Liz tied up in the trunk of a car. And it says, I have Liz tied up in the trunk of the car, and you need to call her right now and tell her you hate her. She's a whore. Otherwise, I'm going to kill her. I call Liz, and I say, hey, you're not tied up in the trunk of a car, are you? No, no, ha ha. All right, good. Good night.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
And at that point, it was just another day. It just wasn't even shocking anymore.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
I get a call from Liz, frantic, freaking out. My house is on fire. Somebody's burned my house down. I go over to Liz's house, and there's fire trucks all up and down the street, and there's firemen walking around, and there's hoses, and they're pouring water in the place.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
I felt very bad for Liz because I felt like I brought this crazy person into her life.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
I tripped out. I mean, this is my job, and this is on a main street.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
It makes you paranoid. You can't rest, you can't relax. You're always wondering when something else is gonna happen and if it's gonna escalate.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
The stalking at that point was quite apparent that she had been in and around the building.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
We were seeing each other, but she was doing her thing and I was doing mine.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
one woman who i never actually met she spent five minutes on my facebook and that was all it took she was a target threatened to be killed threatened to have their children killed it was insanity carrie seems to be monitoring his every move and keeping a close eye on his female friends
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
We were in the living room of the apartment, just chatting old times.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
Apparently, Carrie saw her come in. I actually got a text to the effect of, I see you in there with that whore.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
I thought Amy was probably going to kill me because she got drug into it. Mentally, it was a huge strain on everybody involved. Nothing was being done about it. The police had dropped it off at some point, so it was just something I had to deal with. Being stalked in her house was just part of life.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
They smelled a big fish, a big problem, something really weird.
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How did I not see anything? How could I be so naive or so stupid or so gullible?
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This isn't good. So now this person is armed. They've already proven to be dangerous.
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Police had come to me and said, Liz is the culprit. But I still hadn't seen any evidence myself. So I was either trying to ignore the whole thing or trying to understand how this person I spent so much time with could be this other person I didn't know.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
I purchased a pistol for self-protection in case Carrie would come in the house with ill intent towards me or my children.
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The box that I kept the weapon in, it's been moved. My stomach drops. I'm just, oh, no. I open the box. The weapon is missing. So I immediately call the police and tell them I have a firearm stolen.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
This isn't good. Now this person is armed. They've already proven to be dangerous. It was a heart-stopping moment.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
I didn't know how to venture back into the dating pool. I'd been out of it for a long time. So I felt pretty rusty. I was sitting in an apartment by myself at the time with no furniture. So internet dating was the thing. That was the way to go.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
It was undeniable at that point. I knew it was her, and I knew it had to be my gun. It was like running into a brick wall in a race car. It'd be like if gravity just failed. The first thing my mind did was start to go back to all the things that had happened over all these years and how did I not see anything and how could I be so naive or so stupid or so gullible?
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
Everything you thought you knew was a lie. For Dave, the frustration at this point is overwhelming. If they don't arrest her soon, I'm gonna kill her.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
I thought Liz was very pretty. I was attracted to her right away. So then we set up a date.
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She was sexy. She was bright and shiny, and she was very engaging.
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I was kind of going wild, just, you know, being free for the first time in a long time.
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when he met somebody the old-fashioned way face to face in a chance encounter six months after i met liz i'm at the counter managing the shop and i'm the person greeting customers when i come in and an extremely attractive woman walks in the door it's a woman named carrie farber she brought her ford explorer into his shop to be worked on and she was beautiful a light-hearted air about her
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And they turned around to leave and Kava kind of as his afterthought said, hey, is there anything, you know, we missed, anything at all?
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
Had been in a box for I don't know how long, you know, a year and a half probably. And I don't even know why I thought about it.
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When we looked at each other, there was a little spark. You know, we both smiled. You know, you feel that sometimes.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
She's showing me something inside the vehicle, and we're standing there, and we're very close, you know, within a couple inches of each other, and there's some tension.
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I want Liz to go away and never do this to anybody again. Nancy and Cherry's son were foremost in my mind. They're unfortunately the ones that have to live with the repercussions.
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I'm paranoid as hell. I really am. I don't trust anybody. I really don't. To me, Dodie, Avis, Chava, they're all heroes.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
So Carrie and I ended up going to Applebee's for our first date. We hit it off. As we're getting up to leave, I asked Carrie if she wanted to come over and hang out. And she said, yeah. So we went back to my place, we shared a kiss, and then it got a little hotter and a little heavier, and then Carrie stopped and said, okay, if we're gonna do this, and this implying sex, that's all it is.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
You're not my boyfriend, I'm not your girlfriend. I felt like I hit the jackpot with that. I couldn't have wrote it better.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
I walked Carrie out the front door, and she walked right by Liz, and they probably saw each other for six seconds.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
Sherri's job happened to be right around the corner from where I lived versus an hour from where she lives.
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I mean, at this point, I've known her two weeks since she's got a key to my apartment. I was feeling pretty comfortable with her.
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My phone starts blowing up with texts from Carrie. I hate you. You ruined my life.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
My phone starts blowing up with texts from Carrie. I hate you. You ruined my life. What is going on? I was blown away.
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She's on the couch, got her laptop out. She's doing her thing. So I gotta go to work, so I give her a kiss, and I say, I'll see you later. I had expected to see Carrie that evening.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
She texts me and says, let's move in together, which was very left field, because we had already talked about that not happening. As soon as I can, I text her back and say, I'm not interested. I can't do that. We haven't known each other nearly long enough for that.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
and almost immediately I get a message back that says, fine, I hate you, I'm dating someone else, I don't want to see you anymore, go away, lots of profanity. I didn't know what to think. I was blown away.
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True Crime Vault: A Tangled Web
It was a day, maybe a day and a half of radio silence, and then my phone starts blowing up with texts from Carrie along the lines of, I hate you, you ruined my life, you're a terrible person. I thought, OK, I don't need this in my life. I dodged a bullet.