Something About Cari - Ep. 2: Bait and Switch
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What troubling messages did Carrie send to Dave?
Dave Krupa, a man raised in a strict Southern Baptist household who'd done a 180 on the subject of monogamy, hated the whole idea of it, sounded like he was almost, almost, ready to use the L word, as in love, to describe his feelings for Kerry Farver. But, as the mechanic told the detectives, as suddenly as a blown rod through an engine block, it all came to a sudden stop. Because... Well, on that morning of November 13th, just three hours after walking out the door in his happy haze, having hit the powerball, as he put it, with a woman who seemed to fear commitment as much as he did, his phone chirped. Text message. It was like a needle in a big fat balloon. By 10 o'clock, I received a text from her that says, do you want to move in with me?
Or should we need to move in together or something along those lines? But immediately, I text her back, no, we've known each other two weeks. It's not going to happen.
How did Dave react to Carrie's proposal to move in together?
As soon as I text her back, I get a text back that says, fine, I don't ever want to see you again. Go away. I'm dating somebody else. I hate you. On and on and on and on and on. Weird. Very weird. Very, what is going on here? But I was at work. It was very busy.
What signs indicated Carrie was in distress?
I didn't have time for that nonsense. So in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, phew, I dodged a bullet there. But Dave hadn't dodged a thing. And now he was... He was confused. The man who liked his sex life uncommitted had apparently once again found a woman who expected way more than he was ready to give. Wanted to lock him down. And now... was acting like a woman scorned. Because, he told the cops, ever since he told Carrie she couldn't move in with him, Only eight days had followed.
What evidence did detectives find regarding Carrie's behavior?
She'd been making his life miserable, refusing to answer his calls, responding to text messages with a nonstop staccato of angry, often misspelled messages in return. Carrie. Now, that name. Just like the old movie about the possessed prom queen from the 1970s. It sounded like Dave's personal horror show. So this is the woman from hell now. All of a sudden, yeah. Or in the course of a couple of hours. Wow. I'm Keith Morrison, and this is Something About Carrie, a podcast from Dateline.
How did Liz become involved in the case?
Episode 2, Bait and Switch. Dave Krupa hadn't seen Carrie since the morning he left her at his place, eight days before, as he told those cops with their policeman eyes. Hey, man, I don't know where she's at, but I've got nothing to do with it. It's, you know, I'm backpedaling as fast as I can. I don't know where she's at, and I don't want to know where she's at at that point. I just want her to go away. And to back up his claim, Dave said he had nothing to hide. Showed detectives his cell phone. Showed them all the texts and emails Carrie had sent him. Do you think they believed you when you said you didn't know where she was?
What were the implications of Carrie’s text messages?
I'm 100% they believe me. And then, the strangest thing. One of the detectives' phones lit up. It was a text to the cop. From Carrie himself. We had a voice actor read the messages from Carrie.
I would really appreciate if you could leave Dave Krupa out of it.
What in heaven's name was going on? So what was a cop to do in this bizarro world? Reply, of course.
What was the reaction of Carrie’s family during her disappearance?
So he typed out these words. Here's Corporal Ryan Avis.
We can't stop looking into it. We need to locate you.
And the missing person entry won't be taken out until someone talks to you in person to where we know you are okay. Did she respond to that? She said it was pointless. She didn't want to be found. Exactly. And then another text, more ominous this time.
How did the investigation evolve after Carrie was reported missing?
I want one person to go away for destroying everything for me.
Twilight Zone material. But who, who did she want to go away? The only thing Dave could figure was that woman who'd awkwardly showed up the night Carrie first went to Dave's place. For some reason, Carrie seemed to be blaming her for interfering somehow. And who was it? So I go out the security door and there's Liz and The woman was Liz Gallier. Remember her? She's the check-writing, furniture-buying woman who told police where to find Dave. Except Liz swore up and down to police she never wrote such a check.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What troubling messages did Carrie send to Dave?
0:03–1:08
2
How did Dave react to Carrie's proposal to move in together?
1:08–1:27
3
What signs indicated Carrie was in distress?
1:27–2:05
4
What evidence did detectives find regarding Carrie's behavior?
2:05–2:44
5
How did Liz become involved in the case?
2:44–3:26
6
What were the implications of Carrie’s text messages?
3:26–4:00
7
What was the reaction of Carrie’s family during her disappearance?
4:00–4:27
8
How did the investigation evolve after Carrie was reported missing?
4:27–31:35