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Dateline Originals

Something About Cari - Ep. 2: Bait and Switch

04 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What troubling messages did Carrie send to Dave?

3.592 - 31.067 Dave Krupa

Dave Krupa, a man raised in a strict Southern Baptist household who'd done a 180 on the subject of monogamy, hated the whole idea of it, sounded like he was almost, almost, ready to use the L word, as in love, to describe his feelings for Kerry Farver. But, as the mechanic told the detectives, as suddenly as a blown rod through an engine block, it all came to a sudden stop. Because...

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32.093 - 57.814 Dave Krupa

Well, on that morning of November 13th, just three hours after walking out the door in his happy haze, having hit the powerball, as he put it, with a woman who seemed to fear commitment as much as he did, his phone chirped. Text message. It was like a needle in a big fat balloon. By 10 o'clock, I received a text from her that says, do you want to move in with me?

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57.912 - 68.222 Dave Krupa

Or should we need to move in together or something along those lines? But immediately, I text her back, no, we've known each other two weeks. It's not going to happen.

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Chapter 2: How did Dave react to Carrie's proposal to move in together?

68.242 - 87.923 Dave Krupa

As soon as I text her back, I get a text back that says, fine, I don't ever want to see you again. Go away. I'm dating somebody else. I hate you. On and on and on and on and on. Weird. Very weird. Very, what is going on here? But I was at work. It was very busy.

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Chapter 3: What signs indicated Carrie was in distress?

87.963 - 116.834 Dave Krupa

I didn't have time for that nonsense. So in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, phew, I dodged a bullet there. But Dave hadn't dodged a thing. And now he was... He was confused. The man who liked his sex life uncommitted had apparently once again found a woman who expected way more than he was ready to give. Wanted to lock him down. And now... was acting like a woman scorned.

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117.798 - 125.174 Dave Krupa

Because, he told the cops, ever since he told Carrie she couldn't move in with him, Only eight days had followed.

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Chapter 4: What evidence did detectives find regarding Carrie's behavior?

125.615 - 153.147 Dave Krupa

She'd been making his life miserable, refusing to answer his calls, responding to text messages with a nonstop staccato of angry, often misspelled messages in return. Carrie. Now, that name. Just like the old movie about the possessed prom queen from the 1970s. It sounded like Dave's personal horror show. So this is the woman from hell now. All of a sudden, yeah.

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153.467 - 161.407 Dave Krupa

Or in the course of a couple of hours. Wow. I'm Keith Morrison, and this is Something About Carrie, a podcast from Dateline.

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Chapter 5: How did Liz become involved in the case?

164.634 - 191.473 Dave Krupa

Episode 2, Bait and Switch. Dave Krupa hadn't seen Carrie since the morning he left her at his place, eight days before, as he told those cops with their policeman eyes. Hey, man, I don't know where she's at, but I've got nothing to do with it. It's, you know, I'm backpedaling as fast as I can. I don't know where she's at, and I don't want to know where she's at at that point.

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191.533 - 205.615 Dave Krupa

I just want her to go away. And to back up his claim, Dave said he had nothing to hide. Showed detectives his cell phone. Showed them all the texts and emails Carrie had sent him. Do you think they believed you when you said you didn't know where she was?

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Chapter 6: What were the implications of Carrie’s text messages?

206.356 - 224.586 Dave Krupa

I'm 100% they believe me. And then, the strangest thing. One of the detectives' phones lit up. It was a text to the cop. From Carrie himself. We had a voice actor read the messages from Carrie.

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225.568 - 228.253 Carrie Farver

I would really appreciate if you could leave Dave Krupa out of it.

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230.717 - 239.233 Dave Krupa

What in heaven's name was going on? So what was a cop to do in this bizarro world? Reply, of course.

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Chapter 7: What was the reaction of Carrie’s family during her disappearance?

240.075 - 244.182 Dave Krupa

So he typed out these words. Here's Corporal Ryan Avis.

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244.583 - 247.688 Josh Mankiewicz

We can't stop looking into it. We need to locate you.

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247.708 - 267.178 Dave Krupa

And the missing person entry won't be taken out until someone talks to you in person to where we know you are okay. Did she respond to that? She said it was pointless. She didn't want to be found. Exactly. And then another text, more ominous this time.

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Chapter 8: How did the investigation evolve after Carrie was reported missing?

267.919 - 271.705 Carrie Farver

I want one person to go away for destroying everything for me.

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272.528 - 300.251 Dave Krupa

Twilight Zone material. But who, who did she want to go away? The only thing Dave could figure was that woman who'd awkwardly showed up the night Carrie first went to Dave's place. For some reason, Carrie seemed to be blaming her for interfering somehow. And who was it? So I go out the security door and there's Liz and The woman was Liz Gallier. Remember her?

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301.093 - 318.784 Dave Krupa

She's the check-writing, furniture-buying woman who told police where to find Dave. Except Liz swore up and down to police she never wrote such a check. In fact, she said somebody stole her checkbook, and so the thief must have written it. Kind of made sense to police.

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Carrie, perhaps in the throes of a mental health crisis, steals Liz's checkbook and then forges a check for five grand just to mess with the woman who once shared a bed with Dave Kruger. But that wasn't the only way Carrie messed with her, said Liz. When she went out to her garage, to her car, she found, scrawled on the wall, the words, "'Whore from Dave.'" Well, that sealed it.

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350.065 - 377.22 Dave Krupa

It had to have been Carrie. All of it. Detectives are used to strange things. But this, though? This was among the strangest of all. Detectives Doty and Avis. Very out of the ordinary. Yeah, like maybe she'd had a breakdown or something, a psychotic episode. That would be the only answer. Ten days after Carrie's disappearance, Liz filed a police report in Omaha.

377.981 - 408.468 Dave Krupa

And that meant Carrie Farber was now a suspected stalker. But the stalking or harassment, whatever it was, didn't stop. It got worse. Dave told police that graffiti was sprayed on his car and on his place of work, his garage. But like all my employees knew all about it and... kept a vigilant watch for Carrie around the shop and around the parking lot and the bar next door.

408.528 - 429.892 Dave Krupa

They all had a description of her and knew who she was. And the tobacco shop next to them and my apartment managers where I lived and the maintenance guys, everybody had their eyes open. Because these texts and emails were getting much more vicious and threatening all the time. And at the apartment complex, I lost two or three windows. And frankly, they were tired of paying for them. Really?

429.932 - 453.004 Dave Krupa

So, smashed Mentos more than once? Oh, yes. Yeah. What was it like to come home and find that? That was... I mean, would she leave a note or something? Or it just... I would get a text or an email that said, ha ha, I did this with a picture of what happened. But back home, across the Missouri River from Omaha, in Pottawatomie County, Iowa, Carrie was still just missing.

453.645 - 473.04 Dave Krupa

And her family was very worried. Carrie's mother heard about the threatening texts, the harassment. The police report filed against her daughter didn't sound like her Carrie. Unless Carrie had had some sort of psychotic break. Nancy's protective instinct had her doubting everybody.

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