Dave Letele

Can we put them on as a kaupapa that we can support?

then we take them through the process, sign it up, and then from there on in, families can choose to support Ko Papa like yourselves simply by paying their energy bill.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A couple of weeks ago, I saw a mother and a daughter stealing a countdown.

And a few years ago, I would have been like, oh, maybe I might have said something.

But as I'm working out, the daughter's crying and the mum's crying too.

And she says, we just have to do what we have to do.

And like I...

You know, that's really hard to hear.

Because it is so expensive.

And people are getting left behind.

Like, I don't blame them.

Like, that's really hard.

So I don't know if that's right.

Because I went home and I spoke to my wife about it and I was like, am I right to feel this way?

Like to see someone in that position knowing that they have kids just like how we have kids.

And that's what they feel that they have to do to be able to feed them, just with everything going on.

It's heartbreaking, bro.

This has been allowed to happen.