Dave Letele

Are you doing this for clout?

No, I'm just... But if socialists were more like that, more about demonstrating care, we would have more care.

But you're right, I don't know why people just don't see the connection between wealth monetary-wise and then wealth people-wise and how they can't work together.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, for me, it's still my promise to my nan.

For me, I have to make it personal.

And so when I visit families, when I talk with our team,

In my mind, I try to visualize that conversation that I had with my Nan.

And it's actually really hard because I'm quite a passionate person, but I don't really express it a lot.

And I need to work on that.

But my why is definitely

Well, I have two.

I have two.

I've shared the first, my nan.

And the second is I just want my kids growing up in a better place than I grew up.

And so I don't want my youngest son to grow up wanting power or having to make the choice between having a nice home-cooked meal or having a hot bath.

Like I just don't want that anymore.

And right now that's a reality and I just want to take that away.

Almost as if it's something that we talk about in the past.