Dave Ramsey

Exactly.

We only give, Ramsey's only give, into situations where we create a sustainable story.

We don't throw money at something, $5 at something that's a $100 problem.

You're not creating a sustainable story then.

You've got to fix the problem.

You've got to get down under it.

And so that's going to involve maybe what I would pay is for them to get with a Ramsey coach.

And the Ramsey coach boxes her ears and says, you have to sell the three cars.

Guys, you cannot afford these stupid cars.

You can't afford to live in that house.

Oh, maybe you need to get a job because your life, your business is not a business.

It loses money.

It's called a hobby.

And so, no, we're going to have to, you know, these types of things are going on under the scene because if they're $10,000 short, the $1,000 from the 17-year-old or the $400 from the 10-year-old doesn't fix it.

nor does $500 from you fix it.

So don't do that.

But do say, I'll cheer you on.

I'll help you do a budget.

I'll connect you with some people and pay for it for you to get some coaching, to get yourself out of this.

You've struggled with this your whole life.