Dave Ramsey

The problem was your brother overdid it.

He got two more degrees than he needed to function in that space.

You do not need a PhD in sports medicine to function in the sports medicine space.

I wouldn't go to school eight years for a $70,000 job.

I agree with you, Alejandro.

That's not worth it.

Absolutely not.

And you can get lots of $70,000 jobs for four-year degrees and lots of $100,000 jobs going to trade school and being a welder.

So if you're just looking at return on investment, the trades are awesome.

There's a gap right now in the marketplace, and they pay beautifully.

But to say college is completely never worth it is an incorrect, not a factual statement.

That's not true either, yeah.

That's not a factual statement.

Getting a degree in stupidity, left-handed puppetry, or German polka history, and then thinking you're going to end up with being anything but a barista is ridiculous.

And so that's dumb, but you can't take somebody doing something stupid like that and saying all higher ed is bad.

That's just not true.

Yeah, mine too.

Mine did.

Yeah, there you go.

That puts us out of the Ramsey Show in the books.