Dave Smith
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And this is too ridiculous. No one would believe this. But regardless of that, so there were two moments that actually really stood out to me in the debate were, okay, so number one was in the Ukraine portion. Number two was in the Israel portion. So in the Ukraine portion at one point, I said to him, we were talking about the, you know, what led up to the war.
And this is too ridiculous. No one would believe this. But regardless of that, so there were two moments that actually really stood out to me in the debate were, okay, so number one was in the Ukraine portion. Number two was in the Israel portion. So in the Ukraine portion at one point, I said to him, we were talking about the, you know, what led up to the war.
And this is too ridiculous. No one would believe this. But regardless of that, so there were two moments that actually really stood out to me in the debate were, okay, so number one was in the Ukraine portion. Number two was in the Israel portion. So in the Ukraine portion at one point, I said to him, we were talking about the, you know, what led up to the war.
And so he said something like, he goes, you know, the real question is why all these countries wanted to join NATO. I mean, we didn't incorporate them in NATO through force. And I was like, well, yes, obviously that's the argument. Isn't that we force the governments willingly wanted to join NATO. I was like, that's pretty obvious why.
And so he said something like, he goes, you know, the real question is why all these countries wanted to join NATO. I mean, we didn't incorporate them in NATO through force. And I was like, well, yes, obviously that's the argument. Isn't that we force the governments willingly wanted to join NATO. I was like, that's pretty obvious why.
And so he said something like, he goes, you know, the real question is why all these countries wanted to join NATO. I mean, we didn't incorporate them in NATO through force. And I was like, well, yes, obviously that's the argument. Isn't that we force the governments willingly wanted to join NATO. I was like, that's pretty obvious why.
You'd want to have your defense subsidized and want to have the most powerful government in the history of the world guaranteeing your defense. Sure. And also because they're concerned about the former Soviet Union, which is still Russia. Okay. But I was like, but that wasn't the argument. You know, the argument is why would we do this?
You'd want to have your defense subsidized and want to have the most powerful government in the history of the world guaranteeing your defense. Sure. And also because they're concerned about the former Soviet Union, which is still Russia. Okay. But I was like, but that wasn't the argument. You know, the argument is why would we do this?
You'd want to have your defense subsidized and want to have the most powerful government in the history of the world guaranteeing your defense. Sure. And also because they're concerned about the former Soviet Union, which is still Russia. Okay. But I was like, but that wasn't the argument. You know, the argument is why would we do this?
And so I was like, let me just give you two bullet points, right? Two quick arguments. And the two quick points that I made were, number one, the Nyet Means Nyet memo, which, of course, as you know well, you've talked about this a lot. You talked about this back on your Fox News show. Was that Bill Burns?
And so I was like, let me just give you two bullet points, right? Two quick arguments. And the two quick points that I made were, number one, the Nyet Means Nyet memo, which, of course, as you know well, you've talked about this a lot. You talked about this back on your Fox News show. Was that Bill Burns?
And so I was like, let me just give you two bullet points, right? Two quick arguments. And the two quick points that I made were, number one, the Nyet Means Nyet memo, which, of course, as you know well, you've talked about this a lot. You talked about this back on your Fox News show. Was that Bill Burns?
Yes, the CIA director through Joe Biden's four years. Yes. who was the CIA director through this entire war up until Trump took back over. But then the ambassador to Russia. In 2008, he was the ambassador to Russia. He wrote a private cable to Condoleezza Rice. This was not for the public. This was a private cable that later the heroic Julian Assange released.
Yes, the CIA director through Joe Biden's four years. Yes. who was the CIA director through this entire war up until Trump took back over. But then the ambassador to Russia. In 2008, he was the ambassador to Russia. He wrote a private cable to Condoleezza Rice. This was not for the public. This was a private cable that later the heroic Julian Assange released.
Yes, the CIA director through Joe Biden's four years. Yes. who was the CIA director through this entire war up until Trump took back over. But then the ambassador to Russia. In 2008, he was the ambassador to Russia. He wrote a private cable to Condoleezza Rice. This was not for the public. This was a private cable that later the heroic Julian Assange released.
It's the only reason we know it exists. And he lays out in there... that all this talk about Ukrainian entry to NATO is going to lead to a war. And he specifically says that this is the brightest of all red lines for the Russians. And if we keep moving forward, they fear this could result in civil war and then they might have to intervene.
It's the only reason we know it exists. And he lays out in there... that all this talk about Ukrainian entry to NATO is going to lead to a war. And he specifically says that this is the brightest of all red lines for the Russians. And if we keep moving forward, they fear this could result in civil war and then they might have to intervene.
It's the only reason we know it exists. And he lays out in there... that all this talk about Ukrainian entry to NATO is going to lead to a war. And he specifically says that this is the brightest of all red lines for the Russians. And if we keep moving forward, they fear this could result in civil war and then they might have to intervene.
In his words, quote, a choice the Russians do not want to have to make. So it's like, hey, there's a pretty compelling piece of evidence. Yes.
In his words, quote, a choice the Russians do not want to have to make. So it's like, hey, there's a pretty compelling piece of evidence. Yes.