Dave Smith

We got 30 to 50 million illegal immigrants here.

Donald Trump has a legit mandate to deport them.

However, how do you do that?

And how much violence is it gonna take to do huge rounds of mass deportations?

And will that number, let's say it's 60% who say they support it.

It's one thing to say you support it.

It's another thing to support it if it's taken a real amount of ugly violence in order to do.

But so Donald Trump had this moment and he had an incredible mandate.

It's really the story of Donald Trump's immigration policy is just kind of like the story of Donald Trump's entire presidency, really unbelievable opportunity, you know, but it was going to take some real skill in exactly how to wield this power, how to get the most juice, the most juice for your squeeze.

And what Donald Trump did, and a lot of people kind of forget this, but Donald Trump took this moment to do two major things.

Now, the two things that Donald Trump did were, number one, he immediately jumped on an effort to deport legal residents who are criticizing Israel.

So he immediately took this moment where people were pretty much on his side and went, let me do this in the most controversial way on the most controversial issue that will turn a whole lot of people off and doesn't move the needle one way or the other in terms of demographics.

And then the second thing he did, Rob, if you remember this,

was he announced we won't be doing mass deportations?

I mean, the way Donald Trump said it was something like, you know, in the Trumpian way, oh, we got great people and hospitality and farming.

They've been here 10, 20 years.

I mean, yeah.

AKA, in other words, if you need the political translation to that, Donald Trump didn't just like pick farming and hospitality as the only things that matter.

In other words, Rob, translation, big business doesn't want this.

It's a pretty big dynamic of why we've had the immigration policies we've had to begin with, by the way.