Dave Smith

Because I think, you know, Rob, it's like,

Look, we're in a storm, like I always say on the show.

It's like a bit of a storm, just these moments where everybody is freaking out.

And I really... I had a few posts on social media over the last 24 to 36 hours that got... I pissed off a whole lot of right-wingers, you know, understandably.

I really was trashing ICE.

And I think I called them all a bunch of pussy cowards or something like that, which, you know, I stand by.

But...

I just find this moment to be interesting.

I think there's a lot going on that people are missing.

And so let's just let's just start it here.

Let's say that because this is something me and you have talked about quite a bit on the show.

Essentially, when Donald Trump first won the election in 2024.

And, you know, in that period of time when between when he won the election, when he first came into office, one of the things me and you talked about was that, you know, the Joe Biden years had moved this country far to the right on immigration.

In a way that really was kind of inconceivable before.

I mean, the American people never, like, supported the lax border policies of the Biden administration.

But you got to a point when Donald Trump is assuming the presidency for his second term where super majorities of the American people supported mass deportations.

And for for anybody out there who is an immigration hawk, as I would consider myself to be, that's a big deal.

It's a big deal that you finally got to a place where like the majority and super majority of the American people support the idea that like, yeah, you don't have a right to be here if you came here illegally.

And as we talked about a bunch, Rob, this was always a very interesting question.

I made the comparison to the civil rights movement a bunch of times where it's like, OK, so.