Dave Smith

It's an interesting question. I mean, I think essentially it was what everyone saw. It's like my first impression of it. My impression during it, during the first half hour of the debate, I was like, well... Douglas just embarrassed himself in front of the world. You felt that in real time? Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it was... You know, look, he was ridiculous.

And it was kind of strange to witness as it was happening. I go, so you decided to open the debate... by just chastising everyone as not being as good as you, that the expert class ought to be the ones consulted that you, I mean, you know, you could argue what he exactly he was saying, but he was clearly saying that you, you guys on podcasts are simply not qualified to talk about these subjects.

And it was kind of strange to witness as it was happening. I go, so you decided to open the debate... by just chastising everyone as not being as good as you, that the expert class ought to be the ones consulted that you, I mean, you know, you could argue what he exactly he was saying, but he was clearly saying that you, you guys on podcasts are simply not qualified to talk about these subjects.

And it was kind of strange to witness as it was happening. I go, so you decided to open the debate... by just chastising everyone as not being as good as you, that the expert class ought to be the ones consulted that you, I mean, you know, you could argue what he exactly he was saying, but he was clearly saying that you, you guys on podcasts are simply not qualified to talk about these subjects.

Now you're saying this on the Joe Rogan experience, right? Of all places to go and deliver this message, this is the place guaranteed to turn the entire audience against you. And of course, I just think that, I think it's a ridiculous non-argument that never would have made sense. But coming off of the COVID years, the idea that you're going to convince people that you ought to kind of...

Now you're saying this on the Joe Rogan experience, right? Of all places to go and deliver this message, this is the place guaranteed to turn the entire audience against you. And of course, I just think that, I think it's a ridiculous non-argument that never would have made sense. But coming off of the COVID years, the idea that you're going to convince people that you ought to kind of...

Now you're saying this on the Joe Rogan experience, right? Of all places to go and deliver this message, this is the place guaranteed to turn the entire audience against you. And of course, I just think that, I think it's a ridiculous non-argument that never would have made sense. But coming off of the COVID years, the idea that you're going to convince people that you ought to kind of...

They ought to trust your opinions. That your class ought to be trusted was a ridiculous attempt.

They ought to trust your opinions. That your class ought to be trusted was a ridiculous attempt.

They ought to trust your opinions. That your class ought to be trusted was a ridiculous attempt.

Well, right. What? Well, also it doesn't look all of this in. So the, the analogy that I I've used about it is that like, uh, if you had two UFC fighters that are going to fight, so they've signed the contract, they've done their training camps. They show up to Madison square garden.

Well, right. What? Well, also it doesn't look all of this in. So the, the analogy that I I've used about it is that like, uh, if you had two UFC fighters that are going to fight, so they've signed the contract, they've done their training camps. They show up to Madison square garden.

Well, right. What? Well, also it doesn't look all of this in. So the, the analogy that I I've used about it is that like, uh, if you had two UFC fighters that are going to fight, so they've signed the contract, they've done their training camps. They show up to Madison square garden.

They both get in the Octagon and like one of them puts up his hands and then the other one puts his hands down and goes, you know, I'm such a better fighter than you. And this is ridiculous that me and you are even fighting. It's like, okay, but we are. But we are. We're here. We signed up for it. Right. We both accepted. We're both here.

They both get in the Octagon and like one of them puts up his hands and then the other one puts his hands down and goes, you know, I'm such a better fighter than you. And this is ridiculous that me and you are even fighting. It's like, okay, but we are. But we are. We're here. We signed up for it. Right. We both accepted. We're both here.

They both get in the Octagon and like one of them puts up his hands and then the other one puts his hands down and goes, you know, I'm such a better fighter than you. And this is ridiculous that me and you are even fighting. It's like, okay, but we are. But we are. We're here. We signed up for it. Right. We both accepted. We're both here.

So if you are such a better fighter, if you have trained so much more, if you have all these advantages against me, well, then you can't just – you have to demonstrate that. Take on the argument. You should be able to then – Destroy me. And so he weirdly opened with this thing where he was gonna turn everybody off, turn everyone against it, because the style is bullshit.

So if you are such a better fighter, if you have trained so much more, if you have all these advantages against me, well, then you can't just – you have to demonstrate that. Take on the argument. You should be able to then – Destroy me. And so he weirdly opened with this thing where he was gonna turn everybody off, turn everyone against it, because the style is bullshit.

So if you are such a better fighter, if you have trained so much more, if you have all these advantages against me, well, then you can't just – you have to demonstrate that. Take on the argument. You should be able to then – Destroy me. And so he weirdly opened with this thing where he was gonna turn everybody off, turn everyone against it, because the style is bullshit.

Even if you're, and I've had lots of people who are pro-Israel reach out to me since then and be like, listen, I disagree with you on the issue, but that was ridiculous the way he attempted to argue. Because weirdly, number one, you're turning everyone against you. And number two, you're just setting the bar so much higher for yourself. Because now once we start actually getting into the debate,