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Dave Townsend

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Bloomberg News Now
Trump's Tariffs Struck Down by SCOTUS, Trump Says Iran Has Days, More

how definitive it was with respect to the statutory interpretation question.

Bloomberg News Now
Trump's Tariffs Struck Down by SCOTUS, Trump Says Iran Has Days, More

The lower courts had been maybe a bit more measured.

Bloomberg News Now
Trump's Tariffs Struck Down by SCOTUS, Trump Says Iran Has Days, More

They had said that the use of the IEPA authority had exceeded what IEPA was intended to permit.

Bloomberg News Now
Trump's Tariffs Struck Down by SCOTUS, Trump Says Iran Has Days, More

And the Supreme Court, it looks to me, went one step further and said that the language of the statute doesn't permit tariffs full stop.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

Sure, June, and it's great to be with you.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

Yeah, the basic premise of the opinion is that the IEPA statute, which empowers the president to take action to regulate importation, doesn't extend to imposing tariffs.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

And so as a matter of statutory interpretation, the president exceeded the authority in issuing the global and fentanyl-related tariffs.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

One thing that did surprise me a bit, June, about the opinion was how definitive it was with respect to the statutory interpretation question.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

The lower courts had been maybe a bit more measured.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

They had said that the use of the IEPA authority had exceeded what IEPA was intended to permit.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

And the Supreme Court, it looks to me, went one step further and said that the language of the statute doesn't permit tariffs full stop.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

Yeah, I mean, I think a win is a win, right?

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

You only need five to uphold the lower court and find the tariffs were unlawful.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

But I do think the six to three vote provides even a sharper defeat here for the administration's arguments.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

I mean, you had...

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

Yeah, so the predecessor to IEPA was the Trading with the Enemies Act, TWIA, and the court had previously said that the language in TWIA, that is to regulate importation, did authorize limited tariffs.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

And so I think the dissent is pointing back at that and saying consistent with that holding, we would find that the same language that Congress used in TWIA, they carried it over into IEPA, would authorize

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

the imposition of tariffs.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

And I mean, I do think that as a matter, if you were reading IEPA in a vacuum, the question of whether the language to regulate importation permits tariffs is tricky.

Bloomberg Tech
Instant Reaction: Trump's Global Tariffs Struck Down By Supreme Court

It's difficult.

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