David Archuleta

So I kind of have to like reflect.

I'm like, okay, look in.

Like what—

Um, there's something about it that I think people find very endearing because there's a bit of an innocence to it.

But I mean, and also not like you watch like secret lives of Mormon wives, but I feel like that's a very extreme thing.

example right because you look at other a lot of the general population of moms and women in Utah and it's so much more innocent yes so much more like protected I think those women are just a lot more exposed to and not afraid to

venture.

You know what?

I think Jen Affleck in the first season was a really great example of how a lot of them behaved and their mentality and their disposition, their relationship and dynamic with their husbands.

And I think the audience watching and

Kind of like their curiosity and confusion and calling things out and vocalizing their opinions really transformed Jen's perspective because it made her be like, oh, it's not like this for everybody.

Right.

And it made her and her husband have to reflect on what...

the dynamic between a husband and a wife could look like it's not just one way.

And also the fact that she gained so much support and love and influence.

And it gave her a lot more power in the marriage dynamic.

So I think he had to, he had to change his role.

It was very interesting to watch in like on TV.

Yeah.

Because most women in Utah don't get that opportunity.