David Archuleta

They don't get to have audience kind of chiming in and giving their opinion and saying, Hey, like that's actually not the best dynamic to have in a marriage.

Like having a man be that authoritative, which in Utah is it's normal.

It's expected.

Right.

So I think to have an outside audience, not in Utah culture, not in Mormon bubble is,

Being able to publicize their opinions and comment during, like, it's, I think it's made a lot of people very, like, it's very, because it's normally a very secluded, exclusive space.

culture and community yeah like we're very much you know we're at people's schools we're at people's work and we kind of like take pride in or like when I was a part of it too like we would take pride in being a little different and they would say we are peculiar people and

We kind of have like this like TV type of personality, like from the 50s, 60s, like leave it to be for like, yeah, just like kind of go lucky and stay optimistic and look on the bright side.

But a lot of that comes from being in denial of some of the more serious issues at hand.

Right.

And so I think it was...

Like you're kind of in like this fantasy world because you believe this lore that in the 1800s, this guy, Joseph Smith, who in Mormon's Latter-day Saints consider the prophet of the restoration.

They believe that Joseph Smith saw God, the Father, and Jesus Christ like as two separate beings.

Like, oh, so that was like a...

I think that's different from some other Christian faiths where they believe that it's just one.

Or it's like the Trinity and Catholicism.

For them, it's like, this is where we were revealed that they're two separate beings, that God is a father and Jesus is his son, which means that we're his brother because we're also children of God.

So it's like a lot of this lore, it kind of feels like,

you're stepping into like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars is how I described it in my book.

But there's a lot of that kind of whimsical imagination.